the reason we are in this precarious position is the same old problem we have had for years .. poor defence it has never really been addressed and tarnishes the good attacking play we sometimes show,there seems to be no middle ground,, we score enough points to win more than we lose but goaline defence is particularly bad, we are capable of winning any game ,but on the otherhand......hence who knows where we will be playing next year

Think Leeds will do enough to win probably by more than 2 scores so any kind of win for us should do it.Widnes attitude is hard to second guess but it shouldn't matter.We are at home we are now desperate and nobody wants to be in that MPG.One last big effort and dare I say get ahead early and they will fold.Dont let up for the full 80 and put a Warringtonesque 80 points on them.Job done .All is forgiven and clear out the old and bring in some real backbone. Sounds simple

Listening to Kevin Sinfield on BBC Podcast, he's certainly not taking Toronto lightly and their Academy Side are in a grand final so won't be tempted to play youngsters in the game either. I'm hoping they put in a right shift to see their home fans off for the season.
Now, Rovers under pressure is a completely different prospect. We don't do pressure. We seem to be hearing noises that Widnes could be putting a young side out, that might be wishful thinking. Looking at it cynically they wouldn't want another Super League club coming down into the Championship making their job harder at automatic promotion next year.
Either way we need to handle pressure better for 80 minutes. Hoping the lack of concentration and professionalism against Halifax doesn't cost us points difference wise.

Widnes are relegated and will certainly hope that no one else is, so that they get the parachute payment to themselves.

They will want Rovers & Toronto in Super League then they will be easily be the best funded club in the championship which they need to be with the change to 1 up 1 down....which Widnes voted for a few days ago.

Rovers will secure safety on Sunday.

Let’s hope you are right and they give the fans some relief

My current thinking (which subject to rapid and dramatic change) is that in anything you do, if you do your best you shouldn’t have regrets.

Since being relegated, I feel that we’ve pretty much done the best we could as a club. As long as we give our all, for as long as there’s hope, i’m at peace with it.

Agreed. All you can do is hope the team play to the best of their ability on the day. Whatever happens then can't be helped.

The annoying times are when they visibly don't (or don't appear to) such as at Toulouse.

Sheens has made so many bad decisions its unreal,atkins has been one of our best players this season,how about this for an idea play him in his best positon scrum half,ever considered that!
Injuries have not helped but the icing on the cake is he signed todd carney,33 way past his best,not fit and they are his good points.Moss has been out on loan all season,his only crime scoring a hat trick in a derby match,scoring again in the match v wakey after coming on with 15 mins leftand the top metre make in the match he got dropped when cas hammered us.

Leeds 19 for their game against Toronto: https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2018/09/26/ ... is-friday/ Pretty much their strongest available, I think.

Leeds 19 for their game against Toronto: https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2018/09/26/ ... is-friday/ Pretty much their strongest available, I think.

Thats a good side and would expect it to win well,but after last weeks results you never know.

The way our injuries seem to be stacking up again we really do need Leeds to beat Toronto, because I think if Toronto win we could struggle to overtake any potential points difference. Hope I,m wrong but since Quinlan has been missing we have lost some real spark. The others have got to get their heads right and really go for it. It would be a big help if they would stop giving possession away. They are capable, but now is the time.

You’ve got to let the Moss thing go he obviously didn’t fancy him it’s Dagger we shouldn’t have let go out on loan but it’s easy in hindsight on Moss he was steady if not spectacular I expected more to be honest last season the way the Bradford fans raved about him

Hindsight is wonderful. However at the start of the season he was never going to play FB because of Quinlan. Both wing spots taken by Carney and Shaw. A year on loan to get Moss match time was right. He might be quick but FB needs a more strategic brain and wings need to be built like forwards really these days.

On topic, Mulhearn will be a massive loss in the Widnes game. Lunt has been off his game since he came back from injury a couple if months ago but I'd rather have his leadership on the field. Same with Tomkins who has played well since he joined.

I'm still undecided about T Carney. He IS or WAS a talented player but it just isn't happening at the moment and may never happen now.

Agree about Lunt who’d have thought bringing Lee off and putting Lunt on would have had the negative effect on the game as it did on Saturday but saying that I do hope he’s fit Mulhearn more so though

Hudgell giving the rallying call in HDM combined with a bollicking. Good,they need deserve it. This is a little like the Huddersfield game before MPG 2016. No time for shrinking violets so let's see if any lessons learnt? Hudgell for me has got it spot on and for all he's the Gaffer is in tune with the Stands. Next 3 games we watch and Sunday it's time to do the business

We really couldn't have hand picked better opponents than Widnes for the final game.

If we were playing Leeds, Salford or even London or Toulouse at home this weekend I would be very concerned because Rovers are having to dig really deep and the resolve isn't what it could be.

Widnes though are only going to put up token resistance. We will beat them by whatever score we need to.

You only get the parachute payment once and they need to have the best chance they can of an immediate return. They will not want to share the parachute payment with us and they will not want to have us competing with them for the only promotion spot.

However patched up and busted Rovers are they will be safe on Sunday. IMO.

Yep. We've limped through yet another qualifiers campaign which has gone to the last round. Off season Sheens will be talking about challenging. Lather. Rinse. Repeat times 12.

Read Lunt is very ill in hospital. Wish him well, another reason for the players to really bust a gut on Sunday.They can't help him get better but a win and safety would be a boost for all

Fed up of waiting now.
Let's just do this.
I think the fact we play last is a completely double edged sword, results go our way, happy days. Need a result, pressure on.
Utterly ludicrous system.
We have accrued more points than the current bottom placed team in the Super 8's over the course of the season and yet we still could go down.
Shizzle sticks.

Seen that - very worrying. Puts things in perspective. Fingers crossed for speedy recovery for him.

Salford sign hastings and lussick,we sign todd carney,how lucky we are.Well done tim.

MPG at worst now. Hope to god the team can pull through sunday. Up the robins. EHIW

O/T Just been on the HDM Hull Live site, and it seems to have been given a 100% click bait makeover.

The lead news story is about a ‘touching’ message from Tommy Robinson, from prison to his wife. I’ll be very generous and say its tone is oddly soft focus.

I know local journalism is in crisis, but even so.

The HDM's coverage of sport is just dreadful. Used to think it was 'ok' for city. Obviously don't read about Hull. But Westmorland's coverage of Rovers is truly awful. He was unbearable on commentary last week too...

Leeds really, really should beat Toronto.

I heard a rumour that if two teams get relegated they have to split the parachute payment. With only a single promotion spot next year and that nugget of info, do you really think Widnes want us down in the Championship when Toulouse is already going to be there with either London or Toronto and lose out on 250k?

All interesting and pure speculation of course.