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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"I didnt say it was an amazing event, it doesn't need to be that to be better than Holderness Rd!
Sorry, I meant 50/50 in ticket numbers. My reasoning in this is that you have what, 6-7,000 season ticket holders? I really cant see all those, plus another 7 or 8,000 turning up for HKR. I do think that 10-12,000 each is do-able though.
What do you reckon?'"
Seems alright to me that and potentially achievable.
Rovers need to be careful to get this right, no point in annoying the Hull fans who are in two minds, the idea is after all to sell as many tickets as possible.
The Derby at the KC is a fantastic spectacle, as much as I have a slight dislike to Hull as a team, the KC does look fantastic full of black and white when viewed from the North. I know it won't be that way for this but the more fans the better.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Seems alright to me that and potentially achievable.
Rovers need to be careful to get this right, no point in annoying the Hull fans who are in two minds, the idea is after all to sell as many tickets as possible.
The Derby at the KC is a fantastic spectacle, as much as I have a slight dislike to Hull as a team, the KC does look fantastic full of black and white when viewed from the North. I know it won't be that way for this but the more fans the better.'"
The contrast looks ace on tv. As in red & white @ one end and black and shh white t'other.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Just off to steal Barista's best silver.'"
Aye, she's obviously not in.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I'm such a cad.
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I forgive you. After all, I'm a mere Hull fanatic who looks to jump on the bandwagon and maximize every extraordinary opportunity to full Hull advantage, whether fully thought through or not! Oh, hang on...
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I forgive you. After all, I'm a mere Hull fanatic who looks to jump on the bandwagon and maximize every extraordinary opportunity to full Hull advantage, whether fully thought through or not! Oh, hang on...'"
How very self aware my dear. I see our gentle counselling is beginning to bear fruit.
Next week, how to breathe without the aid of a paper bag when a Hudgell's Solicitors advert plays on the wireless.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Seems alright to me that and potentially achievable.
Rovers need to be careful to get this right, no point in annoying the Hull fans who are in two minds, the idea is after all to sell as many tickets as possible.
The Derby at the KC is a fantastic spectacle, as much as I have a slight dislike to Hull as a team, the KC does look fantastic full of black and white when viewed from the North. I know it won't be that way for this but the more fans the better.'"
With a 50/50 split it could end up having the feel of a semi-final sort of atmosphere and that would be awesome.
With regards to ticket sales, if HKR are paying for the ground then its reasonable that they get the home % that we would normally get. If we get 10% of anything that we sell then surely we are benefiting more than we would anyway?
Seems simple to me. I would give you the north and however many you would need in the west (upper and lower). Leave us with the east and south and whatever is left in the west. You would get first choice on the corporate facilities and then sell the rest on general sale.
The only issue I can see, is the Premier club ticket holders, who have their seat for whatever event is held at the KC. Other than those who have one for Hull City, and are maybe HKR fans, I would imagine the rest are HFC fans.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Of course our season ticket holders are likely to kick up a fuss, .'"
I think there's more chance of FC season ticket holders kicking up a fuss. No matter how it's explained to them, there'll still be the hard of thinking, who believe they should be allowed to take their allocated seat FOC.
Provided HKR season ticket holders are not expected to pay a penny more for this game, there shouldn't be problem from them either, unless they expect the club to fund any extra travel expenses and/or the difference in the price of a pie & a pint
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| Main squabble i think between fans is who will get the hudgell east stand.
Rovers east stand supporters will want it as they will want a side on view similar to a home fixture (which in essence it is) and it will pee FC fans off seeing red n white in the east stand.
Fc will want the east stand because its their seats (if the shoe was on other foot KR fans wudnt like fc to take over our east stand)
If FC get east stand more will turn up as it will truely feel like a home fixture. Still only up to 15k for me tho.
If we get east stand alot of fc will not turn up sadly. Max of 12k.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Main squabble i think between fans is who will get the hudgell east stand.
Rovers east stand supporters will want it as they will want a side on view similar to a home fixture (which in essence it is) and it will pee FC fans off seeing red n white in the east stand.
Fc will want the east stand because its their seats (if the shoe was on other foot KR fans wudnt like fc to take over our east stand)
If FC get east stand more will turn up as it will truely feel like a home fixture. Still only up to 15k for me tho.
If we get east stand alot of fc will not turn up sadly. Max of 12k.'"
Think you've hit on the crux of the matter, here, vrr. I reckon if Hudge allows the status quo you'd get the usual derby 20k and Hudge, the SMC and us would be quids in.
I'd go whether or not I got my usual seat - always go to away matches anyway - but I'm guessing those that don't would prefer their 'own' seat or nothing, and we'd get the 'not lining his pockets' argument.
Will Hudge choose the sensible, lucrative option or the tempting churlish one?
It would, of course, be wonderful to share my seat with Sandra AND dum-dum, bogies and all, but I fear this is not to be.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I think there's more chance of FC season ticket holders kicking up a fuss. No matter how it's explained to them, there'll still be the hard of thinking, who believe they should be allowed to take their allocated seat FOC.
Provided HKR season ticket holders are not expected to pay a penny more for this game, there shouldn't be problem from them either, unless they expect the club to fund any extra travel expenses and/or the difference in the price of a pie & a pint'"
I've no idea on numbers, but I'd bet there's a fair number that probably would refuse to go on principles alone. They're likely to say I bought my pass to watch Rovers @ CP - uff this wasn't mentioned @ the time purchase. I want my money back. To which, they're right - this has been thrown on us, rightly or wrongly. Just for clarity tho' - my quote for our pass holder kicking up a fuss, was more down to me saying we could potentially offer discounted tickets. (The old chestnut of discounted tickets vs devaluing a season ticket)
Then there's your lot, who want their seat and won't pay a penny towards HKR.
Great stuff and it hasn’t even been confirmed one way or the other yet where we’re playing the game.
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| Quote ="cod'ead".............unless they expect the club to fund any extra travel expenses and/or the difference in the price of a pie & a pint'"
Price of these items isn't an issue, its how well they perform in flight that's important to our lot.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Think you've hit on the crux of the matter, here, vrr. I reckon if Hudge allows the status quo you'd get the usual derby 20k and Hudge, the SMC and us would be quids in.
I'd go whether or not I got my usual seat - always go to away matches anyway - but I'm guessing those that don't would prefer their 'own' seat or nothing, and we'd get the 'not lining his pockets' argument.
Will Hudge choose the sensible, lucrative option or the tempting churlish one?
It would, of course, be wonderful to share my seat with Sandra AND dum-dum, bogies and all, but I fear this is not to be.'"
Considering we're 'selling' our souls and thus genuine home advantage we really have to take the most lucrative deal on offer. Which is whatever keeps you lot happiest. As you're the key on whether this is worth our while. Otherwise what’s the point in doing this?
I don't really see the other option as churlish, it's just what goes with the territory of keeping us happy whilst inconveniencing you lot
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£££ to keep FC fans happy/content + put out KR fans – but make £££
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£ to keep KR fans happy/content + put out FC fans – but make less £
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"
It boils down to
£££ to keep FC fans happy/content + put out KR fans – but make £££
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£ to keep KR fans happy/content + put out FC fans – but make less £'"
So what will Hudge do? And what will be Pearson's preferred option? And will the Egyptian scupper it all anyway by wanting to charge a fortune? Would Pearson lay down and die in exchange for a renegociation of the Hull FC/SMC current deal (Yes, please, btw)?
Too, too exciting.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"So what will Hudge do? And what will be Pearson's preferred option? And will the Egyptian scupper it all anyway by wanting to charge a fortune? Would Pearson lay down and die in exchange for a renegociation of the Hull FC/SMC current deal (Yes, please, btw)?
Too, too exciting.'"
You want Lord Faulkener to die now?
Top form today WormThing.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Price of these items isn't an issue, its how well they perform in flight that's important to our lot.'"
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| Well Hull Fc are away so they should be in the away supporter stand. I guess it depends on how many kr fans are actually going to go, will look pretty bad if you get the East/South stand and they look half empty.
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| What's the difference between the West & East stand capacity wise?
As long as I'm not behind the sticks I'll be happy.
3 of the people I stand with at CP have said they won't go if it's at the KC, I can see there being quite a few more with the same attitude.
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| •North Stand: 4,000 capacity.
•East Stand: 6,000 capacity.
•South Stand: 4,000 capacity.
•West Stand Lower: 6,000 capacity.
•West Stand Upper: 5,000 capacity
Think it's pretty stupid if don't go because it's played at the KC, I mean if your club makes a lot more money from it and it could be £200k then I would think great for my club. It's not like your giving any advantage away anyway, you normally beat us.
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| So we could just take the lower West & part of the upper bit with the corporate. More than enough room.
Wonder what will happen with parking?
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| Not happy, I don't care if the capacity at CP is only 8,000, we should not give up home advantage, we are still away at their ground no matter what the seating arrangements are and will be outnumbered fan wise as though it was an FC home game.
My worry is that we are likely to be without a win for a few games going into this fixture on current play.
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| I can understand what you are saying , I wonder if the roles where reversed what Hull fans would be saying.
Well I don't wonder actually I know and it wouldnt be pretty.
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| Quote ="Punos"•North Stand: 4,000 capacity.
•East Stand: 6,000 capacity.
•South Stand: 4,000 capacity.
•West Stand Lower: 6,000 capacity.
•West Stand Upper: 5,000 capacity
Think it's pretty stupid if don't go because it's played at the KC, I mean if your club makes a lot more money from it and it could be £200k then I would think great for my club. It's not like your giving any advantage away anyway, you normally beat us.
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There are plenty on both side who won't go because its 'enemy' territory, I know one FC fan who goes to every game except CP, purely so he doesn't give Rovers money. In all other aspects of his life he is rational and sensible.
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| Quote ="Little Robin Redhead"So we could just take the lower West & part of the upper bit with the corporate. More than enough room.
Wonder what will happen with parking?'"
Thank god for another rational person. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), you're not Hudge.
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| Quote ="rover49"Not happy, I don't care if the capacity at CP is only 8,000, we should not give up home advantage, we are still away at their ground no matter what the seating arrangements are and will be outnumbered fan wise as though it was an FC home game.
My worry is that we are likely to be without a win for a few games going into this fixture on current play.'"
FWIW I completely agree. However if it is to be switched, it needs to be done in the most profitable way, otherwise what's the point?
I'm sure a few fans from both sides will cut off their noses to spite their faces. I won't be one of them.
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| I don't have a problem with the switch or potentially sitting in the North Stand, nor do I have a problem with Rovers fans sitting in the South and/or East Stand. Not sure why anyone would, to be honest.
I would imagine the potential attendance would be more along the lines of the friendly of a few weeks ago than a Hull FC home league derby. Not necessarily because supporters are against the switch, just that as the Challenge Cup and play offs have shown in recent years, people are less willing to pay on the day than they were in the past.
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