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| Atkin showed tonight how good he is and has the potential to be very good.Marsh has had few chances with odd glimpse of talent but then stalled by injury.Dont think anyone wants to see Marsh fail but at SL level he is a squad player at best? Even at championship I'm not certain he would command a half's berth in a top 4 side? Personally I thought he looked better at FB but again at SL level would he be first 17? Still time to make it and I hope he does
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| Having been at tonight's game. I also feel that Atkins showed more than enough promise to be ahead of Marsh in the hb role. I just feel that the few times I've seen Atkins he is just a better player.
Marsh I've always considered would be better in the centres or as a ball playing LF. Where the pressure is off and he can concentrate on his own game more.
I've never thought he's the one to control/build your team around. But he could be good enough in those roles.
I would send him to York on duel-reg if he's not in our 19. He needs games as he's always struck me as a confidence player, and you only get that through playing.
The game is about opinions, especially as fans. Personally I'd much rather have Moss then Quinlin.
Trouble Marsh has is that he's just not good enough to change alot of opinions on him especially because of where he plays.
I do wonder if some of it with regards Marsh is because he came through the Rovers system. And we've let go/lost alot of players, that because he's still here we expect more from him.
He may come good, but apart from a few games I've seen him in, I have my doubts.
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| Atkin proved he was good on last nights showing I hope he can kick on
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| Maguire out this week,dagger dropped so the off half position go will no doubt go to matty marsh.I have faith in tim sheens,but if marsh is the 2nd best option to maguire the qualifiers beckon at this early stage.Surely moss,quinlan,dagger would be worth a go,we are already aware of what matty is capable of.
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| Quote ="des lawson"Maguire out this week,dagger dropped so the off half position go will no doubt go to matty marsh.I have faith in tim sheens,but if marsh is the 2nd best option to maguire the qualifiers beckon at this early stage.Surely moss,quinlan,dagger would be worth a go,we are already aware of what matty is capable of.'"
I'd put Quinlin there we've got plenty of cover at full back with Dagger and Moss
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I'd put Quinlin there we've got plenty of cover at full back with Dagger and Moss'"
Agree 100% mate,atkin paired with moss,quilan or dagger would bring a bit of pace.We can wish all we want,but marsh basically is championship standard at best.
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| Big onus on the pack to roll over Salford's forwards.Says something when as a fan im not worried about the relative novice Atkin but the doubt is over Marsh? Given decent platform he has the chance to show us what he can do and just hope he does the basics well and grows into the game? Not convinced Sheens will play him but if he does then good luck to the lad
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| Quote ="des lawson"Agree 100% mate,atkin paired with moss,quilan or dagger would bring a bit of pace.We can wish all we want,but marsh basically is championship standard at best.'"
Why would you put Moss in the halves? He isn't a half back. He is a winger/fullback. He doesn't have the passing game of a Quinlan or Dagger.
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| Bobby or Quinlan in the half’s I think would be the option but this is why we need another good quality half in the squad Better players fighting for places
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| Quinlan is the only full back named in squad unless marsh goes to full back it’s looking like he’s going to play marsh Atkin :/
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Why would you put Moss in the halves? He isn't a half back. He is a winger/fullback. He doesn't have the passing game of a Quinlan or Dagger.'"
Moss would be my choice at full back,one of the others to the halves.
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| I’d like to see how moss at full back Quinlan in the half’s works Quinlan is solid under the high ball but he’s kick Returns ant that cleaver may be he’s scared to get injured as he always looks to pass as well rather then taking the line on
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| Personally I really don't see where the calls for Moss at FB are coming from. He is a capable backup but nothing more for me. Quinlan looks dangerous and sharp this year. Yes he is smaller in stature so why wouldn't you use your wingers to return the ball and play to the collective strengths of the team? i.e. Carney likely to get a quick play of the ball for Quinlan to then take advantage. It's not like Moss has much more size or strength to be a more effective returner of a kick and he doesn't really have a passing game. In the London friendly I thought the scoots from Moss were pretty terrible and made no yards whatsoever.
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| I’d say that Dagger already looks a better full back than either Quinlan or Miss.
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| Quote ="SirStan"I’d say that Dagger already looks a better full back than either Quinlan or Miss.'"
Quinlan to me is to lightweight and always tries to get rid of the ball what he gives you in attack you lose in his defence and I don't know who the woman is your talking about but I guess he's better than her also
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| I really think Trying him in the half’s will work I watched him at 6 for St George and he looked good
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| Quote ="fun time frankie" I don't know who the woman is your talking about but I guess he's better than her also'"
You don’t need to know her but take it from me she’s terrible under the high ball.
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| i think its a bit of a myth about quinlans defence, he's made many a good saving tackle. I don't even think the role of fullback is defensive anymore, and thinking moss or daggers is better is ludicrous.
Dagger looks quinlans natural successor, let's bare in mind he's only 19 plenty of time to develop like. Moss i just don't get, but if i played him anywhere it would be wing but as mentioned earlier his exit runs at beginning of sets are absymal. Open space he beats anybody mind
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| The fact is that Marsh is NOT good enough, you can talk all you like but Marsh will never be good enough for the super league and that is a fact.
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| Quote ="Eddy100"The fact is that Marsh is NOT good enough, you can talk all you like but Marsh will never be good enough for the super league and that is a fact.'"
It’s an opinion, no matter how many people share it and how stridently it’s put.
‘Good enough’ is subjective, but it’s a fact that he’s played SL.
What surprises me is how our young or club-trained players mostly get the benefit of the doubt, and Matty Marsh seems to exist to balance that out. For a proportion of fans James Green was always just a couple of years away from becoming a top prop, there’s a general assumption that Will Oakes will definitely make it at first-team level based mainly on academy performances, some people mourn the loss of Josh Guzdek or Liam Harris... and then there’s Matty Marsh. Poor, youthful, handsome, professional sportsman Matty Marsh.
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| Quote ="Eddy100"The fact is that Marsh is NOT good enough, you can talk all you like but Marsh will never be good enough for the super league and that is a fact.'"
How many games have you seen him play at SL level to draw that conclusion?
I know you fans of the barcodes are quick to write half backs off but I’m prepared to let the kid mature before throwing him on he scrap heap
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| Nail on head there Stan. Kelly Watts Taylor Paea all whilst playing for us we had the Curlies coming on telling us how crap they were.Now all suddenly world beaters? Not one of my Fc pals could give big Mose any credit for his barge over carrying 3 players but pointed out poor defense yet creamed their pants over Watts try without being touched.Its all one way with them. As for Marsh it's a big chance for him tonight.
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| in fairness Kelly was outstanding for you 1st year, second was hit and miss and didn't look fit a lot of the time, same with Watts hes twice the player with us than when he played for you, taylor and paea both had good spells with you, as far as mose goes he had a good game against cats but imo lets see where hes at in about 6 games, hes cert got all the attributes to be a big game player,
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| Marsh isn’t in the team tonight, suspect he’s failed to recover from the dead leg he got last Sunday. Blair in the halves.
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| Quote ="hull2524"in fairness Kelly was outstanding for you 1st year, second was hit and miss and didn't look fit a lot of the time, same with Watts hes twice the player with us than when he played for you, taylor and paea both had good spells with you, as far as mose goes he had a good game against cats but imo lets see where hes at in about 6 games, hes cert got all the attributes to be a big game player,'"
Fair summary. Watts seemed to have one good year then one mediocre one with us. And he was similar with you initially, but is more consistent (if still occasionally indisciplined) now, from what I’ve seen.
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