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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Id definitely keep Tilse and Thornley who's been solid IMO and French Kev is worth keeping but it's all irrelevant pickers as we can't shift 9 out and bring 9 in'"
I know it's probably irrelevant, Frankie, but I'm interested in the opinions of fellow forumsters on this topic and I did use the expressions hypothetically and right now in my opening gambit
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| Quote ="Dave K."Near impossible to sign 10 plus quality replacements in one season with the current market, plus players under contract (Campese Lunt etc) need to be paid off or find a club to take them.'"
Ditto the post above, Dave
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| If the current situation prevails, injures to key players, players not giving it 100% etc, I cannot see past bottom spot for us. I was talking to an ex-Leeds player during the course of my work a few weeks ago and his comments were 'with such a light pack and signing injury prone players, you will struggle to stay in SL', which I couldn't argue with. What hacked me off this season is the 'denial' that recruitment was poor from our board, it was as plain as the nose on your face in 2015 we didn't have the pack in particular to trouble SL teams, yet we signed centres and wingers instead of going for much needed back row power. One positive is that I love the Lake District and will be able to make a weekend of it at away games next season.
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| Quote ="rover49"If the current situation prevails, injures to key players, players not giving it 100% etc, I cannot see past bottom spot for us. I was talking to an ex-Leeds player during the course of my work a few weeks ago and his comments were 'with such a light pack and signing injury prone players, you will struggle to stay in SL', which I couldn't argue with. What hacked me off this season is the 'denial' that recruitment was poor from our board, it was as plain as the nose on your face in 2015 we didn't have the pack in particular to trouble SL teams, yet we signed centres and wingers instead of going for much needed back row power. One positive is that I love the Lake District and will be able to make a weekend of it at away games next season.'"
Despite your form, I don;t think you will finish bottom (Wakey will) and there is no way you won't come straight back up, you are still too strong for the likes of Bradford and Leigh (Both who are struggling against the likes of Batley).
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| Bin- Cockayne, Shaw, Marsh, Allgood, Salter, Horne
Keep- Sio, Dixon, Mantellato, Minns, Thornley, Kelly, Green, Greenwood, Tilse, Lawler, Clarkson, Donaldson, Walker, Mulhern, Blair, Boudebza
Dunno- Campo, Lunt, Larroyer, Holker
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| Get rid of Charlie, shaw, salter, Horne, clarkson, Dixon, kelly, Blair, tilse, mulhern. Haven't really seen much of marsh and co. Could do with a 17 like;
New FB
Sio
Thornley
New centre
Mantellato
Campo (depending on injuries etc)
New running HB
Green
Lunt
Walker
Larroyer
Any SR like Hull have got
Donaldson
Boudebza
Prop like Taylor
Allgood (needs to get his act together and stop being a penalty machine)
Another big forward to get us dominating
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| In order to rebuild with any success, whomever the new coach will be, will need as much cap space as possible to do so. (SL status permitting of course). We're in a bad place right now, and if we're at full cap - cuts will need to happen in order to rebuild/strengthen/rebalance the squad next year.
Hypothetically and real world, I'd look to move on as many of the high earning overseas lot as possible (Mantellato aside) ...
I can't imagine we're getting great value from an injured 6 & currently disinterested and injured 7. Sio may as well not be playing for the amount of ball we've moved his way this season. Looks an ever isolated and disconsolate figure out there. A penalty machine liability for what Allgood brings half the time wouldn't be missed too much in my world. Tilse, whilst he isn't this and isn't that, he's reliable but yet easily replaceable from elsewhere I'd imagine. Blair - obv I'm clearly not privy to his earnings, but we've certainly had the best return on the pitch overall. So would be last on the list to go, but if needs must.
Guess the salary comp would probably put Lunt and Larroyer in the mix too for value for cap money, but it's unlikely we could move them on, without cost. As too, would likely be the case with the others mentioned who have contracts beyond next season. But seeing as it’s all PR’s hypothetical and unlimited Rovers fantasy land ..
Out … - Campo / Sio / Blair / Kelly / Tilse / Allgood / Walker / Dixon / Shaw / Salter / Lunt / Larroyer / Horne
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"In order to rebuild with any success, whomever the new coach will be, will need as much cap space as possible to do so. (SL status permitting of course). We're in a bad place right now, and if we're at full cap - cuts will need to happen in order to rebuild/strengthen/rebalance the squad next year.
Hypothetically and real world, I'd look to move on as many of the high earning overseas lot as possible (Mantellato aside) ...
I can't imagine we're getting great value from an injured 6 & currently disinterested and injured 7. Sio may as well not be playing for the amount of ball we've moved his way this season. Looks an ever isolated and disconsolate figure out there. A penalty machine liability for what Allgood brings half the time wouldn't be missed too much in my world. Tilse, whilst he isn't this and isn't that, he's reliable but yet easily replaceable from elsewhere I'd imagine. Blair - obv I'm clearly not privy to his earnings, but we've certainly had the best return on the pitch overall. So would be last on the list to go, but if needs must.
Guess the salary comp would probably put Lunt and Larroyer in the mix too for value for cap money, but it's unlikely we could move them on, without cost. As too, would likely be the case with the others mentioned who have contracts beyond next season. But seeing as it’s all PR’s hypothetical and unlimited Rovers fantasy land ..
Out … - Campo / Sio / Blair / Kelly / Tilse / Allgood / Walker / Dixon / Shaw / Salter / Lunt / Larroyer / Horne'"
So you'd get rid of most the the team including the ones have been playing well that will work
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| Well if it's entirely hypothetical:
Out:
Cockayne
Sio
Dixon
Shaw
Salter
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Thornley
Marsh
Kelly
Campese
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Lunt
Tilse
Walker
Green
Mulhearn
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Larroyer
Boudebza
Donaldson
Clarkson
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Jonathan Thurston
Rachel Riley
Dom Jolly
Frank Sidebottom
Ted Bundy
Joseph Fritzl
Len Ganly
Bob Todd
Rob Darcy
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Obviously, with such a dramatic change in personnel mid season we may need a while to bed them all in and it could take a few games before we decide on the best position for Riley (insert smutty comment here).
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| Like it stan but may have trouble getting a work permit for fritzl
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Like it stan but may have trouble getting a work permit for fritzl'"
EU passport surely? Bundy would be the biggest issue.
Fritzl could bring his own youth team with him as well
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| Quote ="SirStan"Well if it's entirely hypothetical:
Out:
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Sio
Dixon
Shaw
Salter
Minns
Thornley
Marsh
Kelly
Campese
Allgood
Lunt
Tilse
Walker
Green
Mulhearn
Greenwood
Horne
Larroyer
Boudebza
Donaldson
Clarkson
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Greg Inglis
Jonathan Thurston
Rachel Riley
Dom Jolly
Frank Sidebottom
Ted Bundy
Joseph Fritzl
Len Ganly
Bob Todd
Rob Darcy
The Plague.
Obviously, with such a dramatic change in personnel mid season we may need a while to bed them all in and it could take a few games before we decide on the best position for Riley (insert smutty comment here).'"
You wouldn't be trying to take the here now, would you Stan, out of my honest attempt to stimulate Rachel Riley, sorry I meant honest debate.
Apparently SL referees call John Wilkin - The Plague - because he's all over them like a rash.
Mind you, we have quite a few poxy players who could carry that Plague tag too.
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| Stan, I notice we get to keep Bobby Blair following your clear out. Good choice.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Well if it's entirely hypothetical:
Out:
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Dixon
Shaw
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Thornley
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Kelly
Campese
Allgood
Lunt
Tilse
Walker
Green
Mulhearn
Greenwood
Horne
Larroyer
Boudebza
Donaldson
Clarkson
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Greg Inglis
Jonathan Thurston
Rachel Riley
Dom Jolly
Frank Sidebottom
Ted Bundy
Joseph Fritzl
Len Ganly
Bob Todd
Rob Darcy
The Plague.
Obviously, with such a dramatic change in personnel mid season we may need a while to bed them all in and it could take a few games before we decide on the best position for Riley (insert smutty comment here).'"
Surely you need to find a place for freddy kruger?
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| Anyone called Maurice (either the Northern English or exotic pronunciation) deserves a second chance.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Surely you need to find a place for freddy kruger?'"
Too many punctures, same reason Eddie Scissorhands was let go as a kid
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| Quote ="SirStan"Too many punctures, same reason Eddie Scissorhands was let go as a kid'"
Useful to have around if the club lawnmower breaks down though
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Surely you need to find a place for freddy kruger?'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Useful to have around if the club lawnmower breaks down though'"
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| Quote ="roversmad"icon_lol.gif'"
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| Nobody can seriously want to get rid of Kelly, on his day he is class but he can't do it by himself, so please give him a break.
Salter isn't brilliant but he doesn't let us down, hardly ever gives away a penalty and he's solid in defense.
Dixon needs better one to one coaching for when he is running the ball in to defenders and for his tackle technique.
Tilse and Allgood are both average for overseas 'stars' and should be replaced.
Marsh is young and learning the game, so get off his back.
Horne and Cockayne are over the hill and should be replaced.
One of our biggest problems is the lack of hard running second rowers, so let me mention three possibilities: Mariano, Cox and Ollett ( we have let these go when we should have kept them, so think again about Marsh and Salter)
A prop that we should have pushed the boat out to keep is Scott Taylor.
Campese will need to make up his own mind about retirement, Lunt was definitely a mistake to make up for letting Josh Hodgson go when we could have improved him.
Our problems come from having novice coaches who can't/don't improve the young players we bring through. We also offer short term contracts to our homegrown talent and then let those contracts run down before offering new deals, just like what we have done to James Green.
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| All credibility was lost when you put hard running 2nd row and Cox in the same sentence.
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| Quote ="SirStan"EU passport surely? Bundy would be the biggest issue.
Fritzl could bring his own youth team with him as well'"
Are things so bad you would consider playing corpses?
Some rum characters in there also, but I suppose in comparison it's an upgrade on the evil monsters you have now.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Are things so bad you would consider playing corpses?
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I'm considering an approach for Andrew Lincoln to coach the team.
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