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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"
Starting Salary of a newly qualified Tube Driver is £49,673
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That's barely minimum wage in that London though. Its £14 a pint and £1.3M for a 2 bed terrace. Poor lambs.
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"I f**king love a good strike ......Power to the people! ......Wolfie Smith would be so proud! ......Good luck tube workers, I hope you get what you quite rightly deserve.
This won't effect the rugby fans travelling to the capital. We will be either arriving on Friday or Saturday by train or coach and will be using the tube on cup final day .....I think the workers have planned it right and taken the travelling rugby fans into consideration .......Good luck with your endeavour, tube workers!'"
Are you Arthur Scargill's lovechild?
I see you haven't bothered to read the effing detail in my initial post either, so if you are one of those fans who travel down on Friday and get off the train, then you will need a second mortgage for the taxi fare to the hotels after a 2 to 3 hour wait for one. It's likely coach passengers travelling down on Friday will need to get used to staring at tarmac for an extra few hours, cork it up or just pee in their pants.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Have you seen the salary of a tube driver? Compare it to an A&E doctor and then tell me they don't get paid enough.
Starting Salary of a Speciality Doctor with the NHS is £37,176
Starting Salary of a newly qualified Tube Driver is £49,673
Also Tube drivers work on average 35 hours per week. Anything more and they get paid overtime.'"
Also the Tube Drivers get 43 days paid holiday a year too and have been offered an extra 2k per year for working these shifts on weekends only. Unlike police and nurses, they have negotiated above inflation wage increases. In London, it seems the court of public opinion is firmly against them. I wonder why.
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| Strikers should be regarded amongst people found guilty of treason, bestiality or supporting Hull by all others in society.
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"Are you Arthur Scargill's lovechild?
I see you haven't bothered to read the effing detail in my initial post either, so if you are one of those fans who travel down on Friday and get off the train, then you will need a second mortgage for the taxi fare to the hotels after a 2 to 3 hour wait for one. It's likely coach passengers travelling down on Friday will need to get used to staring at tarmac for an extra few hours, cork it up or just pee in their pants.'"
I guess you could just walk to your hotel and enjoy the sights on the way ......That's what I'll be doing when I step off the train at Kings Cross ......Do you remember walking, or are you too old to do that now? ......If so, my apologies!
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| How anybody can support this strike is beyond me! It's disgusting and completely unjustified when you compare it to what people in the NHS/ Armed Forces / Emergency Services have to put up with, and what they get in return.
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| Quote ="bob bob bobin robin"How anybody can support this strike is beyond me! It's disgusting and completely unjustified when you compare it to what people in the NHS/ Armed Forces / Emergency Services have to put up with, and what they get in return.'"
They should have joined a union.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"They should have joined a union.'"
What a load of complete crap!
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| Quote ="bob bob bobin robin"What a load of complete crap!'"
Why?
Or they should leave their jobs and apply to be a tube driver, if it's so ing brilliant.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Why?
Or they should leave their jobs and apply to be a tube driver, if it's so loving brilliant.'"
Because they've chosen to do something worthwhile in their lives by choosing to help provide a vital service to the people within their country. By doing so they have clearly wavered their right to a union, I get that, but what they don't want to see is overpaid & underworked prats (who basically push a lever back and forth all day) deciding that their fat wedge salary isn't enough, so they're going to make other peoples lives a misery in the process. It's pathetic. And the attitude from people like you i.e. "should have joined a union" (which is thankfully a minority!) is infuriating to those that sacrifice a great deal more than what they are actually paid to do.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Why?
Or they should leave their jobs and apply to be a tube driver, if it's so loving brilliant.'"
The problem with applying to be a tube driver is that the unions have held tfl to ransom so much that tfl aren't allowed to advertise externally for tube drivers unless they prove that they can't find a suitable candidate internally. Basically the union have them by the short and curlys!
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| Quote ="bob bob bobin robin"Because they've chosen to do something worthwhile in their lives by choosing to help provide a vital service to the people within their country. By doing so they have clearly wavered their right to a union, I get that, but what they don't want to see is overpaid & underworked prats (who basically push a lever back and forth all day) deciding that their fat wedge salary isn't enough, so they're going to make other peoples lives a misery in the process. It's pathetic. And the attitude from people like you i.e. "should have joined a union" (which is thankfully a minority!) is infuriating to those that sacrifice a great deal more than what they are actually paid to do.'"
You're either a wind up merchant or a f8cking idiot.
push a lever backand forth. tell that to the poor c*nt who was blown up in the 7/7 attacks and the drivers who risk terrorist attacks every day in London. Or the poor sods who have to deal with people regularly throwing themselves in front of the trains.
47,000 in London wont get you a mortgage on a shed.
You should educate yourself and not believe everything in the media. Striking is people's right to protect themselves from exploitation. If my colleagues inthe NHs did it more we might save what's left of the NHS. Then everyone would stop moaning about how sh#t it is and maybe notice most of the problems are down to privatisation.
Hope they strike on the 29th and then you can walk and then maybe you'll appreciate them. I 'll be in London for the final and will supprt them whatever they decide.
Go educate yourself you oaf.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Well said that man.
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Another half wit.......do you believe everything in the Daily Mail. Go educate yourself rather than be spoon fed information. I know it takes effort and requires some intellect but it can be rewarding. Then you can contribute to discussions and form your own opinions.
Try it its invigorating.
Start with some Owen Jones literature then work your way towards Noam Chomsky. There....you can lead a horse to water if they drink it or pi#s in it its up to them.
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| Looks like the strike might be off, London Transport have postponed the night shift start.
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| I was going to reply to the working class who have been brain washed by the sun and daily mail but Burtons forearm has summed it up perfectly.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"You're either a wind up merchant or a f8cking idiot.
push a lever backand forth. tell that to the poor c*nt who was blown up in the 7/7 attacks and the drivers who risk terrorist attacks every day in London. Or the poor sods who have to deal with people regularly throwing themselves in front of the trains.
47,000 in London wont get you a mortgage on a shed.
You should educate yourself and not believe everything in the media. Striking is people's right to protect themselves from exploitation. If my colleagues inthe NHs did it more we might save what's left of the NHS. Then everyone would stop moaning about how sh#t it is and maybe notice most of the problems are down to privatisation.
Hope they strike on the 29th and then you can walk and then maybe you'll appreciate them. I 'll be in London for the final and will supprt them whatever they decide.
Go educate yourself you oaf.'"
To say they risk terrorist attacks everyday is just stupid they are at risk as much as anyone else in London sounds like you want us to go back to the 70s were strikes solved nothing in the end I was in a union for 10 years and when it came for them actually having to do something they were useless never again would I waste my time with these crooks I also remember my dad who was a docker coming out for a month in support of the miners and the only person who came out of that well was scargill with his nice new house
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"You're either a wind up merchant or a f8cking idiot.
push a lever backand forth. tell that to the poor c*nt who was blown up in the 7/7 attacks and the drivers who risk terrorist attacks every day in London. Or the poor sods who have to deal with people regularly throwing themselves in front of the trains.
47,000 in London wont get you a mortgage on a shed.
You should educate yourself and not believe everything in the media. Striking is people's right to protect themselves from exploitation. If my colleagues inthe NHs did it more we might save what's left of the NHS. Then everyone would stop moaning about how sh#t it is and maybe notice most of the problems are down to privatisation.
Hope they strike on the 29th and then you can walk and then maybe you'll appreciate them. I 'll be in London for the final and will supprt them whatever they decide.
Go educate yourself you oaf.'"
47k may not be enough to mortgage a shed but should tube drivers really be getting more than doctors who work in excess of 50 hours per week with no overtime payments? Should they get more time off than Nurses who have to deal with the Sh*t they do day in day out? Should they get more on top of the 47k basic for doing night shifts? Should they get 30k more per year than an infantry soldier who is fighting for his country?
If your answer to any of these questions is yes then you are what is wrong with this country. I believe that any employee should be able to strike to get what they deserve. Tube drivers currently get more than they deserve and are a set of greedy <insert expletive>. By all means, strike for better safety at work but striking because they now have to work that bit harder (even though they still wont work as hard as Doctors/Nurses/Policemen/firemen/Soldier) for their money is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"To say they risk terrorist attacks everyday is just stupid they are at risk as much as anyone else in London sounds like you want us to go back to the 70s were strikes solved nothing in the end I was in a union for 10 years and when it came for them actually having to do something they were useless never again would I waste my time with these crooks I also remember my dad who was a docker coming out for a month in support of the miners and the only person who came out of that well was scargill with his nice new house'"
What a load of crap you spout I was in the union for 50 yrs yes 50 and i was also a shop steward and can tell you if it was not for a union we would not have the hols or pay we have now i can tell you you would not be working a 5 day week on good money you would be working 6 days or more,sure some unions have gone over the top but with out them you would be going to work all hours and on a bike with string round your coat and if it was left to this bunch the zero hours would be for every person going except them, if Maggie Thacher had her way when she was alive thats what would have happened, and the idiot in charge now will do the same if not stopped but i do not say they should get more then doctors or nurses they should of course get more but every person from a street cleaner to a top doctor should try to better their selves you are
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| I didn't realise that there was a salary threshold whereby if you're over it, you have no right to strike. New one on me that.
Londoners don't support the strike? Well I never. The self-serving commuters that will be directly effected by the strike don't like it, I can't believe it.
Some horrendous, crass, jealous comments on here. I only popped on to see if there was any news on the strikes, or other options anyone had found as I'm heading down on Friday morning.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"47k may not be enough to mortgage a shed but should tube drivers really be getting more than doctors who work in excess of 50 hours per week with no overtime payments? Should they get more time off than Nurses who have to deal with the Sh*t they do day in day out? Should they get more on top of the 47k basic for doing night shifts? Should they get 30k more per year than an infantry soldier who is fighting for his country?
If your answer to any of these questions is yes then you are what is wrong with this country. I believe that any employee should be able to strike to get what they deserve. Tube drivers currently get more than they deserve and are a set of greedy <insert expletive>. By all means, strike for better safety at work but striking because they now have to work that bit harder (even though they still wont work as hard as Doctors/Nurses/Policemen/firemen/Soldier) for their money is ridiculous.'"
You don't have a clue do you.
Also, can you put me onto the person who appointed you as supreme judge of what salary people deserve? Thanks
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"What a load of crap you spout I was in the union for 50 yrs yes 50 and i was also a shop steward and can tell you if it was not for a union we would not have the hols or pay we have now i can tell you you would not be working a 5 day week on good money you would be working 6 days or more,sure some unions have gone over the top but with out them you would be going to work all hours and on a bike with string round your coat and if it was left to this bunch the zero hours would be for every person going except them, if Maggie Thacher had her way when she was alive thats what would have happened, and the idiot in charge now will do the same if not stopped but i do not say they should get more then doctors or nurses they should of course get more but every person from a street cleaner to a top doctor should try to better their selves you are
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Maybe a load of crap in your mind but having to listen to shop stewards spout crap for ten years then when it came to the crunch they did feck all funny enough Union leaders never seem to suffer when the workers do British leyland is a shining example of the unions at work obviously your of an age were unions were the be all and end all times have changed that's why if the unions get there choice of labour leader labour will be unelectable
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"You don't have a clue do you.
Also, can you put me onto the person who appointed you as supreme judge of what salary people deserve? Thanks'"
Id say a solider is worth more than a tube driver
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"I guess you could just walk to your hotel and enjoy the sights on the way ......That's what I'll be doing when I step off the train at Kings Cross ......Do you remember walking, or are you too old to do that now? ......If so, my apologies!'"
Geoff. Remember this part of my kick off post.
ADVICE IS TO BE AWARE AND ALLOW MORE TIME TO GET TO YOUR DESTINATION ON FRI OR THE MATCH ON SAT.
It's likely that Sat should be back to normal just about by about midday, if the tube strike goes ahead the day before.
Just trying to be helpful and informative to my fellow heroes and heroines of the Hull KR supporters collective. Not really interested in the merits and demerits of the Tube Strike tbf.
I'm happy that your hotel is close to Kings Cross, but others might not be so lucky. As I currently walk 4 to 5 miles a day on average on 2 dog walks in mixed terrain on the boundaries of the North York Moors in my early retirement, I am happy to inform that my feet, heart and lungs are fully aware of what walking is all about. Appreciate your concern for my welfare, however.
My hotel is our daughter's spare room in SW London. Bloody long walk from Kings Cross, however, but cheap and the breakfast is usually free.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Id say a solider is worth more than a tube driver'"
And I assume your sole criteria for coming to that opinion is because the soldier if on tour, risks his life?
I'm not even sure why you or anyone else would make that comparison anyway? Comparing one job to a totally unrelated job, rather than actually read up on the strike to find out why they're doing it. Some people just see that they're paid £40 odd grand and think 'fk em', pretty close minded, jealous attitude.
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