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| Quote ="RoversTrace"Andy Thompson'"
Was ordinary beyond belief, would never have got anywhere near a SL side.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Was ordinary beyond belief, would never have got anywhere near a SL side.'"
I agree! Workhorse and never took a backward step, but not a quality player.
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| Richard Smith - quick with the ball and looked equally comfortable on the wing or at FB.
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"snip.....
[iPaul Mannson made the game look so easy Agreed! Shame he came to us late in his career.Always thought when he played against us "oh no, Mannsons playing"[/i
[iAlex Thompson best prop we had in National Leagues He was rubbish, Hayes was miles better.[/i
[iRob Wilson great pairing with Fletch. Willo was one of my fave players. One of those you'd hate to play against.[/i
[iAdrian Rainey destructive runner, pity we couldn't have kept him longer Didnt leave for something drugs related? I remember the HDM headline when we signed him "Cometh the Rain Man". [/i
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Byron Ford should have.
Bob Everitt maybe.
One player I always thought was a bit overrated was Chris Charles.
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| Quote ="Roofs"Richard Smith - quick with the ball and looked equally comfortable on the wing or at FB.
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Robocop? He played Super League with Halifax iirc
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Most of those players listed played top flight rugby either with Rovers or other clubs. Indeed as stated, Whetu was an international centre. I reckon they would be a bit upset to be told they hadnt "made it"!'"
Wildmoose wrote:Throughout the wilderness years in the National Leagues we had a lot of good players come & go. Stan, Wilkin & Raleigh got their chance in Super League, but what of the others? With full-time training, better coaching & better players around them could any of them have developed into SL players? Some suggestions…
Garry Brown -did he play top flight rugby? I did nt think so
Richard Oliver -thought he only played for us in lower league
Alasdair McClarron - never played in top flight
John Okul -did in Oz, after injury the rest is history
Whetu Taewa -made it
Paul Mannson -most of career in lower leagues
Gary Chatfield-yes played for us in top flight, not for long
Neil Wardrobe
Alex Thompson - crap
Jon Aston -top flight with hull, us in the lower leagues
Paul Fletcher -legend
Rob Wilson -most of career in lower league
Adrian Rainey -cant remember him
Andy Smith never played top flight.
Going from my hazy memory. Maybe the Oracle RBA can prove me wrong?!!
It depends what 'made it' means. Rovers had a lot of players play for us for a short period of time, and just because it was a handful of games in the top division I would not say that was 'making it'.
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Robocop? He played Super League with Halifax iirc'"
Oh yeah, sorry, forgot he was with Fax.
Remember him going 70-80 metres at Wakefield about '98, class try.
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| IIRC Rainey already had a fair amount of experience in the NRL with Western Suburbs before signing for you. He was banned for steroid abuse (I think) after winning their young player of the year award, and came to England to try and jump-start his career when the ban was up.
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| how about mike Fletcher great goal kicker would he had made it
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| rainey got off to a bad start in his first home game he turned up in just t-shirt shorts and flip flops no boots or kit and not long after that his gf or wife smashed up the car rovers had got him
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Was ordinary beyond belief, would never have got anywhere near a SL side.'"
Did alright in the Stones Bitter Championship
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| Very hard to say which part time players could have, given full time training, made it in Super League. Depends as much on dedication as anything.
Perfect example of a player exceeding his talent was Keith Tindall, good at schoolboy level, but outshone by others in a very good team, where the "stars" of that team chose women and ale over dedication whereas Keith stuck to training in gruelling winter conditions and eventually reaped the benefits.
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| Andy Smith would have made it in supre league but like a lot of others around at the time full time came to late as they were at an age when they would at best have had 2/3 years he has a good job & pays better than super league Taking into account he can go on untill he is in his 60's. A lot of the others mentioned would have been better players for full time training & not having to juggle jobs & playing.
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| Remember Lee Sibery (sp) showing a lot of promise and potential around 1998/99, maybe could have made it as an SL full-back with the right support.
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| I cant believe that Gary Chatfield is on the not made it list, I play at Telephones with him for years and we won the Poulson Rose Bowl !!
You lot set some high standards !
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| Just out of interest, anyone know why the following only had very brief careers (1 season or less IIRC) with us?
Keith Beauchamp
Jamie Kennedy
Daniel Brown
Three Aussies who played for us around 1998 and all looked good players, but they only stayed for a very short time.
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Quote ="Roofs"Just out of interest, anyone know why the following only had very brief careers (1 season or less IIRC) with us?
Keith Beauchamp
Jamie Kennedy
Daniel Brown
Three Aussies who played for us around 1998 and all looked good players, but they only stayed for a very short time.
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Keith Beauchamp - Was a high profile signing. Think he ended up playing 3/4 games for us, scoring a hat trick on debut at home to Dewsbury iirc. He played for Illawarra and Hunter in NRL I think.
Jamie Kennedy - Was a rangey back rower from what I remember and a pretty good player. Dont remember what happened to him though.
Daniel Brown - Spent 2 or 3 seasons with us at either Hooker or Half back. Was a good player, went on to spend many years with Oldham and is brother of Nathan Brown.
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Quote ="Roofs"Just out of interest, anyone know why the following only had very brief careers (1 season or less IIRC) with us?
Keith Beauchamp
Jamie Kennedy
Daniel Brown
Three Aussies who played for us around 1998 and all looked good players, but they only stayed for a very short time.
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Keith Beauchamp - Was a high profile signing. Think he ended up playing 3/4 games for us, scoring a hat trick on debut at home to Dewsbury iirc. He played for Illawarra and Hunter in NRL I think.
Jamie Kennedy - Was a rangey back rower from what I remember and a pretty good player. Dont remember what happened to him though.
Daniel Brown - Spent 2 or 3 seasons with us at either Hooker or Half back. Was a good player, went on to spend many years with Oldham and is brother of Nathan Brown.
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| Lee Sibrey was 31 when he signed for us so they would have been no chance of him ever playing any higher.
Jamie Kennedy had a couple of very good years playing for Leigh after he left us
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| Quote ="Rockpig"Wildmoose wrote:Throughout the wilderness years in the National Leagues we had a lot of good players come & go. Stan, Wilkin & Raleigh got their chance in Super League, but what of the others? With full-time training, better coaching & better players around them could any of them have developed into SL players? Some suggestions…
Garry Brown -did he play top flight rugby? I did nt think so
Richard Oliver -thought he only played for us in lower league
Alasdair McClarron - never played in top flight
John Okul -did in Oz, after injury the rest is history
Whetu Taewa -made it
Paul Mannson -most of career in lower leagues
Gary Chatfield-yes played for us in top flight, not for long
Neil Wardrobe
Alex Thompson - crap
Jon Aston -top flight with hull, us in the lower leagues
Paul Fletcher -legend
Rob Wilson -most of career in lower league
Adrian Rainey -cant remember him
Andy Smith never played top flight.
Going from my hazy memory. Maybe the Oracle RBA can prove me wrong?!!
It depends what 'made it' means. Rovers had a lot of players play for us for a short period of time, and just because it was a handful of games in the top division I would not say that was 'making it'.'"
Gary Brown, Richard Oliver and Neil Wardrobe all played top flight rugby for the Robins.
Would be interested to know what your definition of "making it" is. In my opinion if you are good enough to play top flight rugby then you have most deffo made it. I would also suggest that somebody like Jon Aston who didnt play top flight rugby but had a long career with Hull, Rovers and Rochdale in the lower leagues also has fair claim to have "made it."
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Was ordinary beyond belief, would never have got anywhere near a SL side.'"
Thompson may have been a limited player going forward but his defence was as good as any backrow forward around in the early 90s. His combination with Paul Fletcher at that time was very under-rated and, in my opinion, far better than the much vaunted Michael Jackson and Garry Price who both achieved Great Britain honours.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Gary Brown, Richard Oliver and Neil Wardrobe all played top flight rugby for the Robins.
Would be interested to know what your definition of "making it" is. In my opinion if you are good enough to play top flight rugby then you have most deffo made it. I would also suggest that somebody like Jon Aston who didnt play top flight rugby but had a long career with Hull, Rovers and Rochdale in the lower leagues also has fair claim to have "made it."'"
Was it 1994 we got relegated, with Barkworth and Charlesworth on the wings? I thought Oliver and Brown played after that.
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| Quote ="Andyhullofalad"Lee Sibrey was 31 when he signed for us so they would have been no chance of him ever playing any higher.
Jamie Kennedy had a couple of very good years playing for Leigh after he left us'"
He wasnt
He was about 26 -27
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| Quote ="Rockpig"Was it 1994 we got relegated, with Barkworth and Charlesworth on the wings? I thought Oliver and Brown played after that.'"
Both played in our relegation season.
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| Craig Hardy always seemed to cause a bit of havoc when he was on the pitch. I always thought we released Andy Ellis a bit to early, il suppose we'll see next season.
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| Def wish we could have held onto Martins and Tandy. + if we hadn't signed Briscoe I think Hardman had the potential for SL - outstanding loan signing.
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