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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Eh? Rovers won awards for Masongate's embarrassment quotient. Tsk.'"
That's sooo 2011. They may as well close the book for 2012!
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| Quote ="barham red"I was wondering that myself, theoretically it does aid performance as it uses a stimulant to make you have more energy. I suppose if you extrapolate that enough you'd actually ban bananas and sandwiches as well.'"
Red Bull is a caffine hit & depending on the ammount of caffine in your blood stream could find you disqualified in athletics (caffine helps break up lactic acid that builds up with exorcise) I dont know if that applies to all sports.
Another thing that I have seen today in the press is Hudgell quoted as saying it is a disgrace? as a rovers fan I wish he would keep his mouth shut on things that have no bearing on our club as it only looks petty & stirs up people, best to let it be.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"Red Bull is a caffine hit & depending on the ammount of caffine in your blood stream could find you disqualified in athletics (caffine helps break up lactic acid that builds up with exorcise) I dont know if that applies to all sports.
Another thing that I have seen today in the press is Hudgell quoted as saying it is a disgrace? as a rovers fan I wish he would keep his mouth shut on things that have no bearing on our club as it only looks petty & stirs up people, best to let it be.'"
Agree, aside from point scoring and calling your club.
Can you imagine him going to the RFL, driven by someone in a fish wagon "Mr RFL can you look at FC they are all naughty"
Mr RFL responds "well Neil, hows that golf stand? is it true you cant host an SL game?"
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| Quote ="Beverley red"Red Bull is a caffine hit & depending on the ammount of caffine in your blood stream could find you disqualified in athletics (caffine helps break up lactic acid that builds up with exorcise) I dont know if that applies to all sports.
Another thing that I have seen today in the press is Hudgell quoted as saying it is a disgrace? [ias a rovers fan I wish he would keep his mouth shut on things that have no bearing on our club as it only looks petty & stirs up people, best t[/io let it be.'"
Doesn't the fact that an R.F.L. employee emailed UKAD on June 4th to ask for Gleeson's suspension be lifted so he could against Hull KR the following day have a bearing on Hudgell's club?
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| Quote ="Mulder"Doesn't the fact that an R.F.L. employee emailed UKAD on June 4th to ask for Gleeson's suspension be lifted so he could against Hull KR the following day have a bearing on Hudgell's club?'"
I just think it looks more dignified to say nothing keep quiet then when we need to say somthing important to our club people take more notice. It did not impact on our club & in my opinion we would look a lot better if we had kept out of it.
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| Quote ="Mulder"Doesn't the fact that an R.F.L. employee emailed UKAD on June 4th to ask for Gleeson's suspension be lifted so he could against Hull KR the following day have a bearing on Hudgell's club?'"
I just think it looks more dignified to say nothing keep quiet then when we need to say somthing important to our club people take more notice. It did not impact on our club & in my opinion we would look a lot better if we had kept out of it.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"Another thing that I have seen today in the press is Hudgell quoted as saying it is a disgrace? as a rovers fan I wish he would keep his mouth shut on things that have no bearing on our club as it only looks petty & stirs up people, best to let it be.'"
Well said.
There's been an enquiry. The bans have been issued. Everything else just seems like gossip at the moment, and until there is substantiated evidence, to throw an opinion out their like "it's a disgrace" is only going make people think what you have said (petty and =#FF0000Edit-AS stirring).
The only thing that is a disgrace is the misleading media reports that are comparing what was taken to something like steroids when, like you say, is more just a caffeine-like hit that, had it been taken a few hours earlier, would have been fine. For sections of the media to call Gleeson a "drugs cheat" is completely uncalled for and is intended for the reader to take completely out of context for the sake of sensationalism. "Drugs screw-up" would have been more accurate. "The whole team were taking it" also is another attempt at sensationalism if it is true you can take it up to 12 hours before competition. If they are, then they could very well be doing it legally.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Agree, aside from point scoring and calling your club.
Can you imagine him going to the RFL, driven by someone in a =#0000FFfish wagon "Mr RFL can you look at FC they are all naughty"
Mr RFL responds "well Neil, hows that golf stand? is it true you cant host an SL game?"
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Fish Van if you please, we can't afford a wagon, ask fcimp.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Well said.
There's been an enquiry. The bans have been issued. Everything else just seems like gossip at the moment, and until there is substantiated evidence, to throw an opinion out their like "it's a disgrace" is only going make people think what you have said (petty and =#FF0000Edit-AS stirring).
The only thing that is a disgrace is the misleading media reports that are comparing what was taken to something like steroids when, like you say, is more just a caffeine-like hit that, had it been taken a few hours earlier, would have been fine. For sections of the media to call Gleeson a "drugs cheat" is completely uncalled for and is intended for the reader to take completely out of context for the sake of sensationalism. "Drugs screw-up" would have been more accurate. "The whole team were taking it" also is another attempt at sensationalism if it is true you can take it up to 12 hours before competition. If they are, then they could very well be doing it legally.'"
Where is this "disgrace" report/quote? Can't say I've heard or seen it tbh.
Read a report on the bbc site which read more like Hudge trying to stir trouble towards the old regime @ Hull. Given his/their reported disagreements in the past can't say I blame him, but perhaps letting old bygones be bygones - would be a better option.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Where is this "disgrace" report/quote? Can't say I've heard or seen it tbh.
Read a report on the bbc site which read more like Hudge trying to stir trouble towards the old regime @ Hull. Given his/their reported disagreements in the past can't say I blame him, but perhaps letting old bygones be bygones - would be a better option.'"
Yesterday's Hull Daily Mail:
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-held-Gleeson-case-say-RFL/story-14436593-detail/story.html[/url
Quote However, his Rovers counterpart Neil Hudgell labelled the whole saga a 'disgrace'.
"I was told near the time that FC had sought guidance on whether to play the derby, which I just laughed off as a joke. It's a complete disgrace if true," Hudgell told the Mail.
"This matter is dragging rugby league through the gutter and there should be a full and independent inquiry into exactly who knew what at the club, particularly the senior management at the time."
Former FC chairperson Kath Hetherington recently defended Rule's role, telling the Mail she had 'serious misgivings' over his two- year ban for 'tampering'. He was accused by Gleeson, and FC's former conditioner Ben Cooper, of encouraging them to give false evidence.
But Hudgell believes Hetherington too should now face questions.
"It's a disgrace really, especially for the then chairperson to come out and blame the others.'"
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Yesterday's Hull Daily Mail:
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-held-Gleeson-case-say-RFL/story-14436593-detail/story.html[/url'"
Grazie
TBF - I believe he's just trying to get the non existent dogs to pick up Ms Hetherington's stench in this matter. Perhaps he could've left it alone but in truth it would be nice to know if the saga passed up to Kath's desk. Still, not really our place to stick our orr in and I doubt any inquiry would really make any difference to what has already been put into the public domain in any event.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Grazie
TBF - I believe he's just trying to get the non existent dogs to pick up Ms Hetherington's stench in this matter. Perhaps he could've left it alone but in truth it would be nice to know if the saga passed up to Kath's desk. Still, not really our place to stick our orr in and I doubt any inquiry would really make any difference to what has already been put into the public domain in any event.'"
Exactly. It's like telling your ex-girlfriend that you cheated on that her new boyfriend isn't very nice and shed be better off without him. He might not be, and she might be better off without him, but you're not in a position to comment! You just sit back and keep it shut!
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| Hudge has just been venting his spleen on Look North.
Go Grudge, go.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Do tell. Did he threaten to scweam and scweam til he was sick?
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Think it was just an audio repeat of his Humberside ramblings (summarised by [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/16579884.stmbbc.co.uk[/url)
Mainly Simon Clarke and James Smailes.
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| [urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Ex-Hull-FC-players-Fitzgibbon-Dowes-admitted/story-15106923-detail/story.html[/url
For the good of the sport of RL, it's time there was an independent inquiry in to what happened to find out who knew what.
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| Quote ="General Zod."[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Ex-Hull-FC-players-Fitzgibbon-Dowes-admitted/story-15106923-detail/story.html[/url
For the good of the sport of RL, it's time there was an independent inquiry in to what happened to find out who knew what.'"
You could be right,but I suspect the R.L. has a bloody big carpet with plenty of room underneath.
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| Best left alone, could go anywhere that.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Best left alone, could go anywhere that.'"
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The whole sport is going to get shafted if we are not careful.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Indeed.
The whole sport is going to get shafted if we are not careful.'"
Best cover it up then for the good of the sport !
Great attitude,same as the leaders which in my eyes is where the faults lie.
Perhaps we can get rid of the whole old regime and then the sport will be blameless and not punished anymore ?
Bells ringing ?
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| Quote ="PAC"Best cover it up then for the good of the sport !
Great attitude,same as the leaders which in my eyes is where the faults lie.
Perhaps we can get rid of the whole old regime and then the sport will be blameless and not punished anymore ?
Bells ringing ?'"
I understand what you're saying, but I think it could quite possibly result in a large amount of players testing positive for things they genuinely believed did not contain banned substances.
That sort of publicity does not attract major sponsors when your existing deal has just expired and would also not be very pleasing to the major broadcaster who pays several million pounds a year and is just launching a new season.
I do hope the RFL are doing [isomething[/i I just feel it would be wise to do it quietly away from the gaze of the media.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"I understand what you're saying, but I think it could quite possibly result in a large amount of players testing positive for things they genuinely believed did not contain banned substances.
That sort of publicity does not attract major sponsors when your existing deal has just expired and would also not be very pleasing to the major broadcaster who pays several million pounds a year and is just launching a new season.
I do hope the RFL are doing [isomething[/i I just feel it would be wise to do it quietly away from the gaze of the media.'"
For once i agree with sandra blimey I never thought i would
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"For once i agree with sandra blimey I never thought i would
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| Quote ="PAC"Best cover it up then for the good of the sport !
Great attitude,same as the leaders which in my eyes is where the faults lie.
Perhaps we can get rid of the whole old regime and then the sport will be blameless and not punished anymore ?
Bells ringing ?'"
What is being covered up?
In addition, which independent body are we going to get in, to second guess the UKAD investigation?
What are you expecting / wanting to find?
If some sort of evil RFL cover up is discovered, what do you want to happen?
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| Hundreds of thousands of pounds have already been spent on this investigation. People of been fined and banned. The UKAD have said they are happy with the outcome. Why start another investigation? These things aren't free, guys.
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