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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"So [uforgive me it i take his version of events[/u over a couple of keyboard would be wind up merchants one of which talks bollax on a daily basis
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Do you think Rovers will announce any signings for 2011 before September?
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Lets weigh up the pros and cons here then.
Moa is out of contract at Hull with Agar unsure of whether to offer him a deal because of his deficencies in defence.
Moa's agents touts his name around and 2 unnamed clubs have supposedly made him offers.
The HDM run a story saying one of them is Rovers.
Not confirmed by the club once and smack in the middle of a time where every Rovers story the HDM ran turned out to be wrong
Surprise surprise the player gets a new deal at Hull
Neil Hudgell is asked on the Online Interview with the fans if Rovers ever made an offer for Moa and his reply which was posted on this site is an categoric NO.
So forgive me it i take his version of events over a couple of keyboard would be wind up merchants one of which talks bollax on a daily basis
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You didnt weigh up any pro's and con's there. You simply listed what you believed to be the events that took place.
Here's my version:
Moa was OOC and Agar was looking at the benefits of using a quota space on Moa or looking to fill another position.
Moa is allowed to talk to SL clubs and prior to the HDM running a story i hear that Moa is in talks with Castleford, Celtic and Rovers.
Forget the HDM story, they generally repeat things from various sources and never really break anything of note.
The 3 offers on the table are more than Moa is offered at Hull but he doesnt want to go elsewhere. His agent plays silly games for a little bit and in the end Moa gets a decent 2 year deal at FC.
Neil Hudgell answers the question 'No' on the forum. Now if you believe every word he tells you you're sillier than us believing James Rules spin!
The simple fact of it as was mentioned earlier is that Rovers would have been stupid not to talk to an up and coming impact prop when that was the position Morgan had indicated at strengthening.
It's not something to be ashamed of you know losing out on a player to FC.
(i heard my version of events from a couple of different 'in the know' sources. As i said, doesnt really matter which version of events are true, does make me chuckle though around the Rovers denial spin that often occurs in relation to FC)
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Quite correct.
This thread shouldnt be drifting on to one of Hull FC's fringe players who only seems to get a game when there are injuries.
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Wouldnt say fringe mate. He's our star prop at the minute. Sadly that's probably because the rest of our side look garbage.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Wouldnt say fringe mate. He's our star prop at the minute. Sadly that's probably because the rest of our side look garbage.
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Your best player at Leeds away by a mile by all accounts and then dropped for the Cup game if i recall correctly.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Your best player at Leeds away by a mile by all accounts and then dropped for the Cup game if i recall correctly.'"
Yup. Then back in the week afterwards and looked good. Doenst look out of place in SL and carries us forward well. Even RBA was singing his praises at Edinburgh, although thats probably because the rest of our side looked lacklustre and average.
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| All things aside Rovers signing another young prop would not have made any sense.
Watts 19
Lovegrove 22
Wheeldon 25 ish i think
Another experianced prop to go with Vella after the departure of Fozzard was what was needed so im happy to trust a Solicitor on this one
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"All things aside Rovers signing another young prop would not have made any sense.
Watts 19
Lovegrove 22
Wheeldon 25 ish i think
Another experianced prop to go with Vella after the departure of Fozzard was what was needed so im happy to trust a Solicitor on this one
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Am i right in thinking that at the time it wasnt a call between the two though because Rovers didnt contact Clinton until a couple of weeks later? Dont think it was that kind of choice for Rovers.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"All things aside Rovers signing another young prop would not have made any sense.
Watts 19
Lovegrove 22
Wheeldon 25 ish i think
Another experianced prop to go with Vella after the departure of Fozzard was what was needed so im happy to trust a Solicitor on this one
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The form of Wheeldon and Lovegrove must be a worry though?
Do you not think Rovers are lacking an impact style player to come on and scatter players?
Rovers pack has the grafters and the skill element but to me it just seems to lack that extra punch.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"All things aside Rovers signing another young prop would not have made any sense.
Watts 19
Lovegrove 22
Wheeldon 25 ish i think
Another experianced prop to go with Vella after the departure of Fozzard was what was needed
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And Mills.
Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend" im happy to trust a Solicitor on this one
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Do you think Rovers will announce any signings for 2011 before September?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"The form of Wheeldon and Lovegrove must be a worry though?
Do you not think Rovers are lacking an impact style player to come on and scatter players?
Rovers pack has the grafters and the skill element but to me it just seems to lack that extra punch.'"
Wheeldon it appears has the same problem as Moa in that his coach sees 4 other props in the pecking order before him if everyone is fit.
Hard to achieve and sustain a level of form when your in and out the side
For the first 8 rounds Lovegrove was our most consistant performer.
He has not matched that in recent weeks so hopefully the break for the cup will allow him to regain that.
Morgan prefers the more mobile forward to the impact forward it seems but i agree with your point as that type of player can change the momentum of a game with one good break or hit.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"And Mills.
Do you think Rovers will announce any signings for 2011 before September?'"
Ive more chance of getting a game then Mills
They have already, Liam Watts.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista""Selling the fans short" at this stage of the season. Naughty, naughty.
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They have signings targetted, why the haste to announce them.
Makes you look totally useless when you say you have signed players who never actually pull on the shirt IMO
Plus i know that as well as Watts a couple more have extended deals but the club will break that news when it suits them
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"[u They have signings targetted, why the haste to announce them.[/u'"
Well, any signing before the end of the season is selling the fans short, according to your chairman. So in a hypothetical scenario that Rovers continue to struggle this season, put season passes on sale in July and announce a signing to boost interest, that would be rank hypocrisy, obviously. But clearly that won't happen.
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Makes you look [utotally useless[/u when you say you have signed players who never actually pull on the shirt IMO
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What would signing a player on a 2 year extension and playing him in SL 4 times in 2 seasons look like, then - extremely useless?
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"
Plus i know that as well as Watts a couple more have extended deals but the club will break that news when it suits them'"
Sensibly enough they seem to wait to balance a bad defeat with some good news the following week, so hopefully we won't hear for a while. Colbon and Lovegrove would be the obvious choices for renewal at the moment, IMO.
Clinton has done well enough from what I've seen. We just lack anybody who, on recent form, when they get the ball, you catch your breath and there is a sense of anticipation or excitement.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Sensibly enough they seem to wait to balance a bad defeat with some good news the following week, so hopefully we won't hear for a while. Colbon and Lovegrove would be the obvious choices for renewal at the moment, IMO.
Clinton has done well enough from what I've seen. We just lack anybody who, on recent form, when they get the ball, you catch your breath and there is a sense of anticipation or excitement.'"
Colbon
Lovegrove
Webster/Galea
Walker
I'anson
Wheeldon
Mills
id guess that would be in order of importance.
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| Rhys "probably the worst top division no. 8 in HKRs history" Lovecantackle will only get another contract if he signs for more or less an academy wage...upto him...
I would put him on the first plane to NL1.....however my views are not widely shared.....
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| Do you need to get a flight to nl1?
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| Quote ="Larry Billey"Rhys "probably the worst top division no. 8 in HKRs history" Lovecantackle will only get another contract if he signs for more or less an academy wage...upto him...
I would put him on the first plane to NL1.....however my views are not widely shared.....'"
They are with another forum user....but he doesn't rates Watts either
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| Lovegrove
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Galea
Walker
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Would be my order of importance to keep; but id only keep the top 4 and would let the bottom 4 go.
I'Anson - we need someone better (maybe keep as back up?)
Webster - Dont think we'd miss him to much, and reckon we could get better on cheaper wages.
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| Quote ="Larry Billey"Rhys "probably the worst top division no. 8 in HKRs history" Lovecantackle will only get another contract if he signs for more or less an academy wage...upto him...
I would put him on the first plane to NL1.....however my views are not widely shared.....'"
Yet he is significantly better than Wheeldon (for example). Go figure?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Do you need to get a flight to nl1?'"
Not to NL1 as it does not exist anymore but if he was gonna play for Tolouse it would help if he could fly there
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| Quote ="Larry Billey"Rhys "probably the worst top division no. 8 in HKRs history" Lovecantackle will only get another contract if he signs for more or less an academy wage...upto him...
I would put him on the first plane to NL1'"
Larry, or may I call you Laz?
I don't know if you've noticed, but Rugby League is a pass time, you know, supposed to be enjoyable. A bit like yer old folk enjoy a bit of Crown Green Bowling.
You following this Lazzington?
What I don't understand about you (and I do realise it's none of my business, I'm just curious Lazzer) is why would you indulge in a pass time (remember, we've already learnt it's meant to be fun) when you don't like either the participants, the bloke organising them or even the club.
Pray tell, Lazzog, why do you pain yourself so?
Quote ="Larry Billey".....however my views are not widely shared.....'"
That's because they're mostly wrong.
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