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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Or put another way, £150k a year for a good looking version of Radford.
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Applying similar logic to o'meley then.
In the kc friendly o'meley was very average, in fact pretty anonymous and radford had a pretty good game, therefore are fc paying £150,000 for an uglier, worse performing radford when they all ready had the pig ugly sh11t version playing for them..
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| Quote ="barham red"Applying similar logic to o'meley then.
[uIn the kc friendly o'meley was very average, in fact pretty anonymous [/uand radford had a pretty good game, therefore are fc paying £150,000 for an uglier, worse performing radford when they all ready had the pig ugly sh11t version playing for them..
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I gather you never got a chance to catch Friday game on sky then, O'Meley is much more than average and improving every game..
Agree he has a face only a mother could love though
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| Quote ="barham red"Applying similar logic to o'meley then.
In the kc friendly o'meley was very average, in fact pretty anonymous and radford had a pretty good game, therefore are fc paying £150,000 for an uglier, worse performing radford when they all ready had the pig ugly sh11t version playing for them..
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TBF O'Meley was outstanding on Friday in pretty much all aspects of being a prop. Won virtually every collision, defended like his life depended on it and more often than not got a quick PTB.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Well they'd hardly go public and say he earns more than Wheeldon, Netherton, and Watts put together, for example, would they? Especially not when he gets a breather after 9 minutes.
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So by that logic then, you don't mind O'Meeley earning more than say Houghton,
Cussak and Hall and lasting less time than Clinton on his debut.
Another points scoring flop Yorkie
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| Quote ="rover49"So, what you are saying is based on one tackle O'Meley has made and one tackle Clinton has been on the end of, you conclude that O'Meley is far superior.
Ask Adrian Morley of his opinions on Joel Clinton, I think you will find he has more to offer than your summary of his abilities based on a Youtube clip and 20 minutes of a debut in SL after 5 months out of the game.
You are either stupid or a poor wind up merchant (which amounts to the same really).'"
Clinton will be a decent signing for Rovers no doubts about it. But you have to remember players of his ability are ten a penny in aussie. Average players in aussie more often than not end up looking top class in SL. But given the choice of him and O'Meley, i'm afraid i'd take the latter every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
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| Clinton had 1 year left at Brisbane, so he had £163K in front of him, and was more or less guaranteed to be moved on at the end of his deal. When Rovers offered him 3 years, he would have had to weigh up his market value beyond his Brisbane contract before taking up Rovers offer.
Its nothing but guesswork (and poor trolling) to suggest Rovers are paying him anywhere near that figure. I don't think he will be our top earner, and he certainly isn't the highest paid Aussie in this city
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| Quote ="barham red"Applying similar logic to o'meley then.
In the kc friendly o'meley was very average, in fact pretty anonymous and radford had a pretty good game, therefore are fc paying £150,000 for an uglier, worse performing radford when they all ready had the pig ugly sh11t version playing for them..
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Please tell me you're joking in appraising Radford as a better prop than O'Meley. I hope the wink indicates that. Still, at least we've captured that your assessment of O'Meley is that he is "very average". In which case £150,000 would be far too much. Although we know Clinton asked to be released from a £163,000 a year contract because of the deal on offer at Rovers, O'Meley was OOC at a bottom of the table club, so I'd doubt he could command £150,000 TBH, but clearly you know better.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Clinton had 1 year left at Brisbane, so he had £163K in front of him, and was more or less guaranteed to be moved on at the end of his deal. When Rovers offered him 3 years, he would have had to weigh up his market value beyond his Brisbane contract before taking up Rovers offer.
Its nothing but guesswork (and poor trolling) to suggest Rovers are paying him anywhere near that figure. I don't think he will be our top earner, and he certainly isn't the highest paid Aussie in this city
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A very good point. When you think about it, why should Clinton be the highest paid Aussie in the city?
Fitzgibbon SOO 11, Aus caps 19 (last one 200icon_cool.gif
Berrigan SOO 13, Aus caps 13 (last one 2007)
O'Meley SOO 10, Aus caps 15 (last one 2006)
Clinton SOO 0, Aus caps 1 (in 2004)
Maybe he can top up his paltry salary at Rovers with a bit of modelling.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Please tell me you're joking in appraising Radford as a better prop than O'Meley. I hope the wink indicates that. Still, at least we've captured that your assessment of O'Meley is that he is "very average". In which case £150,000 would be far too much. Although we know Clinton asked to be released from a £163,000 a year contract because of the deal on offer at Rovers, O'Meley was OOC at a bottom of the table club, so I'd doubt he could command £150,000 TBH, but clearly you know better.
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not at all, I was using your idea that based on his debut Clinton is no better than radford, so I can make the assumption that on his debut for fc o'meley played worse than radford did in that game.
I find it strange how you seem to think that the top quality signings you have, o'meley and fitzgibbon, both who you remind us are soo and aus internationals seem to cone to fc for 2 and 6 and a pat on the back, yet you know to the penny how much we pay.
Your recent posts just pang of double srandards.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"
Maybe he can top up his paltry salary at Rovers with a bit of modelling.
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This might answer philB's question about image rights?
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| Quote ="barham red"not at all, I was using your idea that based on his debut Clinton is no better than radford, so I can make the assumption that on his debut for fc o'meley played worse than radford did in that game.
I find it strange how you seem to think that the top quality signings you have, o'meley and fitzgibbon, both who you remind us are soo and aus internationals seem to cone to fc for 2 and 6 and a pat on the back, yet you know to the penny how much we pay.
Your recent posts just pang of double srandards.'"
Sorry, but that's unfair. I've said in this thread that I'd expect our top earners to be on £120,000, so hardly 2 and 6. The difference is we know what Clinton has given up (£163,000 a year) so have some reference point, whereas I'm not aware of the previous salaries of our new players being in the public domain. It's quite possible that £120,000 is on the low side given, as you say, their relatively strong record on the representative front.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Sorry, but that's unfair. I've said in this thread that I'd expect our top earners to be on £120,000, so hardly 2 and 6. The difference is we know what Clinton has given up (£163,000 a year) so have some reference point, whereas I'm not aware of the previous salaries of our new players being in the public domain. It's quite possible that £120,000 is on the low side given, as you say, their relatively strong record on the representative front.'"
If you think that Berrigan, Fitzgibbon and O'Meley are only on £120k a year then you are crackers.
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| More to the point though, who actually cares?
Each club has a maximum to spend, If they want to play one player so much as say Bradford have decided to do with Orford then so what?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBF O'Meley was outstanding on Friday in pretty much all aspects of being a prop. Won virtually every collision, defended like his life depended on it and more often than not got a quick PTB.'"
Lets be honest here, Quins pack on Friday was very poor indeed.
Quins had nothing to offer in way of attack and looked sluggish in defence, not a great barometer to judge your pack against.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBF O'Meley was outstanding on Friday in pretty much all aspects of being a prop. Won virtually every collision, defended like his life depended on it and more often than not got a quick PTB.'"
Have just watched the first half of friday nights game. Your analysis of O'Meleys display is spot on. One thing i did notice was that the pattern of the game changed quite noticeably when O'Meley and Radford were replaced by Cussack and Dowes and Quins brought Temata and Ward on.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Clinton will be a decent signing for Rovers no doubts about it. But you have to remember players of his ability are ten a penny in aussie. Average players in aussie more often than not end up looking top class in SL. But given the choice of him and O'Meley, i'm afraid i'd take the latter every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.'"
Do 'average' Aussie players get $163,000 Aus.
My remarks were made about the evidence of ability put forward in the post, O'Meley may prove to be abetter signing, but that should not be based on two tackles and 20 minutes of RL, surely.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"If you think that Berrigan, Fitzgibbon and O'Meley are only on £120k a year then you are crackers.'"
Don't profess to have first hand knowledge of either Rovers nor FC players salaries, but I was told by someone who does have an inside at FC that Berrigan's deal is closer to 200k than 100k (151k at least ) per season.
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| Quote ="rover49"Don't profess to have first hand knowledge of either Rovers nor FC players salaries, but I was told by someone who does have an inside at FC that Berrigan's deal is closer to 200k than 100k (151k at least
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Wouldn't know any salaries of fc players but can easily get any Rovers player salary by asking any hull fan
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| Quote ="Bertie"Wouldn't know any salaries of fc players but can easily get any Rovers player salary by asking any hull fan
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| Quote ="R.B.A"If you think that Berrigan, Fitzgibbon and O'Meley are only on £120k a year then you are crackers.'"
I would guess Fitzgibbon and Omeley will be on no more than that. Berrigan is on more because when he signed, it was during the season after winning the mom in the aussie grand final and was at the time one of the form players in the world
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"More to the point though, who actually cares?
Each club has a maximum to spend, If they want to play one player so much as say Bradford have decided to do with Orford then so what?'"
No problems at all with this statement.
As long as they actually have the cash to pay.
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| given time i think JC will turn out to be just what we needed.
hes had a weeks worth of training in a different country and surroundings to what hes been used to all his playing career.
hes got new team mates that hes never played with before along with a new coach and totally different suroundings,
only the fc fans seem to have been expecting JC to be busting tackles and setting the world alight during an 80min debut.
IMO he will turn out to be one of justins best signings .
morgs knew what his team needed and went out and got it .
to be fair o'meley and fitzgibbon look like decent signings ,as for long well time will tell...(quite frankly i couldnt care less)
either way JC given time to settle in and find his feet will be one of our stand out players in the next 2-3 years .
i remember when reece lovegrove 1st came over ,morgs was absolutly slated for bringing him over ,desperate signing ,hes a no one ,scraping the barrell etc ,
he has been one of our best players and certainly proved his critics to be way off the mark.
again he took time to settle ,now IMO he will be one of the 1st names on the team sheet.
i have faith in morgs and i have no dout JC will be a very very good signing ..
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| Quote ="barton baird"Not quite correct,I have no idea what any player earns,nor do I give a rats ass either.'"
There's always one exception to the rule. I'm sure a pm to anyone of the unwashed from across the river will give you a full run down on every Rovers players salary.
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| well we shall see, the problem i have is alot of you probably never heard of joel clinton but just by reading a piece of paper you all know he is going to be amazing, i dont know if you know but he hasnt been the best of players in the last couple of years, hence the reason why they are willing to let him go because he's not worth the money bronco's were paying him, but like you all say time will tell,
my prediction is when he's match fit he will be a good forward but nothing startling
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| his figures don't look bad though for a first game considering he wont be match fit,
35 mins on the field, 65m in 8 carries (ave 8.125m a carry), 21 tackles, 2 missed tackles.
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