I am not saying it is not an option but he runs 40yrds sideways 2yrds forwards and gets tackled, hardly ever finds a gap to run through and in your lazy squad doesnt get the runners to pass onto so IF he does pass you more often than not lose ground. And before you tell me I'm wrong I watch more Hull games than you'd imagine!

Did you see the one at your place this year, who's run set up Calderwood's try?

Did you see Castleford's failure to deal with a Leeds bomb resulting in a beautiful length of the pitch try for Shenton?
Would you use this example to advocate players taking their eye off the ball?

What point are you trying to make? Raynor deliberately ran accross the pitch to create an overlap, which he did rather well!!

He was down a blind alley, ran across the pitch like a headless chicken before throwing out one of the worst passes you'll ever see. If it wasn't for such a skillful play from Richard Whiting we wouldn't be discussing yet another shocking non play from the crab

The try that should never have been after the 2 on 1 strip from Hall on Newton then the 1 on 1 from Horne on Dobson that should have been pulled up for a knock on from Horne?!

But yes I see your point it came off then but how many trys have Rovers scored from a similar situation where Fox has taken the ball in and set up a platform?!

The point is that in both instances it worked on that occasion. There are many other occasions where it has resulted in lost yards.

Normally, if Raynor looks like he's going to lose yards he'll offload, one of the best in the business over the years.

When was the last time he offloaded then because he's been going backwards for 3 seasons now

But still gets picked above Fox.

Didnt realise they were in the same team so how does this work? When was he picked above Fox? He wasn't picked for the WC because he struggled to defend cross field kicks and was what he worked on in pre-season at Rovers, this year it hasn't been a problem for him and his catching is not an issue.

Raynor has never been the best at cross field kicks, still got picked.

In front of Fox for the world cup? Really

No, in general.

Stop making a tw@ of yourself.
Neither got picked last summer and previous to last season Fox was still at Wakey and was in a side that was struggling for consistancy.

I fully expect englands wingers to be Gardner and Hall, barring injury.
Not saying it's right, but it's what will happen, these players play for Leeds and saints remember!

No arguments there.

Not yet lightyears ahead of saints but gaining ground as we have only just had 4 pts of them in one season.as for your lot 4 ptscame almost instantly...........................................oh i thank you

At a time when Fox was not as advanced as he is now. Raynor is a very strong winger and has very good footwork along with the speed he posses he should be much better than he currently performs.

We will all defend our own so its a pointless discussion, however, I dont doubt Raynors ability. I feel if he was coached by Morgan he would be blasted week after week for going laterally and he'd be asked to make ground going forward in typical Aussie percentage rugby style. Gaz's style probably suits a team like Warrington more than most other clubs due to their flamboyancy and his erratic running technique.

He hardly attempts to run forward , hence "Raynor the crab"

Now your talking bollox again.

Morgan still has a lot to learn to become a really top coach. I don't like the way he has favoured Australian imports who to be honest have not been fulfilling their potential. He also plays players out of position a.k.a Fitzhenry and does not drop them even when they have had a bad game.
The treatment of Makali Aizue has been a disgrace and I'm very upset that he may be off to another club.

Right so he needs to drop players when they have a bad game....unless they're called Makali Aizue?!

JM isn't the finished article by a long way yet, but stop making stuff up. You have no idea what the situation is with Makka. Seems to me you're just peeved that your favourite player is leaving.