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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I think he is s**t
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Thats because he wears a black and white shirt.
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| Quote ="cheeky charlie"made me laugh the Gateshull fans singing like it was a cup final
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They might improve next year a bit, but have a long way to go,and they need some English people bar people at the K.C!!!!'"
OK, ignoring the racism at the bottom of your post. Why on earth is people singing at a Rugby League match suddenly amusing? I thought that was the general idea.
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"try shouting for dave next time.'"
I wonder what name he'll come up after the next time he's banned. Also, he must be running out of 'ism's to get banned for now?
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"OK, ignoring the racism at the bottom of your post.'"
Now now, it was hardly KKK stuff now was it.
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| Come on then Chunky, explain why the KC needs 'english people bar people' you racist pig.
Yet again DAVE shows his racism, one of the reasons he was previously banned.
Time Chunky went the same way.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Now now, it was hardly KKK stuff now was it.'"
Racism is racism.
To defend it secause it isn't quite harsh enough for you is rather silly.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Racism is racism.
To defend it secause it isn't quite harsh enough for you is rather silly.'"
So to prefer someone english behind a bar is racism is it? Now if he had said ALL BAR STAFF behind the bar should be english, fair enough, but he didn't did he, he said they need SOME english people behind the bar, bit of a difference there don't you think?
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Come on then Chunky, explain why the KC needs 'english people bar people' you racist pig.
Yet again DAVE shows his racism, one of the reasons he was previously banned.
Time Chunky went the same way.'"
Calling 'Dave' a pig is humanist, you question his place on this earth as a human. You're a disgrace to your own kind Butler.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"So to prefer someone english behind a bar is racism is it? Now if he had ALL BAR STAFF behind the bar should be english, fair enough, but he didn't did he, he said they need SOME english people behind the bar, bit of a difference there don't you think?'"
No I don't.
Explain what difference the nationality of the bar staff would make to anybody, unless they are racist?
My daughter suffers racism and it is simply something that doesn't belong in todays society, a bit like Chunky really.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Calling 'Dave' a pig is humanist, you question his place on this earth as a human. You're a disgrace to your own kind Butler.
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Get a grip, if you want to defend racism go ahead, says more about you then it does me.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Get a grip, if you want to defend racism go ahead, says more about you then it does me.'"
I'm not defending racism, and I don't believe a racist comment has been made on this thread, and I also don't think people have a full understanding of what racism is.
As for your daughter, it's wrong she should suffer it, if it is true racism, of which I don't know as I don't know the full details.
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| Stan you are trying to make a big deal out of it, no offence was intended to anyone, i am not racist at all, and neither were my posts , i know what you are trying to do .
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| Quote ="cheeky charlie"Stan you are trying to make a big deal out of it, no offence was intended to anyone, i am not racist at all, and neither were my posts , i know what you are trying to do .'"
WHY DOES THE BAR NEED MORE ENGLISH PEOPLE???
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"I'm not defending racism, and I don't believe a racist comment has been made on this thread, and I also don't think people have a full understanding of what racism is.
As for your daughter, it's wrong she should suffer it, if it is true racism, of which I don't know as I don't know the full details.'"
Not going to much into it but she has dark skin and has suffered since starting school, only kids but they can be the worse.
Perhaps you can explain the difference between 'English' bar staff and non English...difference is their Nationality.
That sir, is racism.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"WHY DOES THE BAR NEED MORE ENGLISH PEOPLE???'"
To make it a true multi-cultural bar, odd having a bar in england with no english people working there, I hate feeling like an ethnic minority.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"To make it a true multi-cultural bar, odd having a bar in england with no english people working there, I hate feeling like an ethnic minority.
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Why is it odd??
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Not going to much into it but she has dark skin and has suffered since starting school, only kids but they can be the worse.
Perhaps you can explain the difference between 'English' bar staff and non English...difference is their Nationality.
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I don't, and didn't expect you to put anything on here about your daughter and the abuse she has to go through.
Being english or non english is just a fact isn't it? It's people like you that dig away looking for any chance to raise the race card for the slightest thing, sadly it's people like you that unwittingly create some of the problems between different races, strange as that sounds.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Why is it odd??'"
Well the last time I checked the map of the world, it had a country called Great Britain on it, that was split into four different home countries, one of them being england, of which has a population of 51 million people, most of them born in england and looking for work, I would like to think english people can work alongside anyone from any country, but it seems that the bars at the KC don't cater for such a situation at present, let's hope this changes and english people have equal opportunity to have such chances in the employment market.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Well the last time I checked the map of the world, it had a country called Great Britain on it, that was split into four different home countries, one of them being england, of which has a population of 51 million people, most of them born in england and looking for work, I would like to think english people can work alongside anyone from any country, but it seems that the bars at the KC don't cater for such a situation at present, let's hope this changes and english people have equal opportunity to have such chances in the employment market.'"
So you are now saying the SMC aren't giving equal opportunities?
Nothing to stop ANYBODY applying for a job there, and if they fit the bill they will get the job.
There are plenty of English people working in the bars at the KC, not that it matters 2 hoots.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"WHY DOES THE BAR NEED MORE ENGLISH PEOPLE???'"
Charlie??
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"For those who have not noticed....the bulls are hitting a bit of form.
you can get 200/1 on quins to win the final(who are 10th), i believe brad can sneek the playoffs on 25 points at the expense of catalan, i will elaborate my theory later. I need to get my bet on, just incase the mighty hull kr slip up
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There are plenty of English people working in the bars at the KC, not that it matters 2 hoots.'"
So why feel the need to tell me then? (I'm kidding) Look Stan, we can go round the houses on this one time and again, fact is if your daughter gets abuse for having dark skin, that is out of order, and if I were passing in the street and saw or heard it, I would be the first to help out because I would be as disgusted as you.
Where we do differ though is what racism is and to what point does it end. Charlie suggesting that foreign workers struggle to comprehend what he is saying, and struggle to work out the currency as change, isn't racism, no matter what angle it's looked at from.
A clip of Clive Sullivan playing for Rovers against Hull FC in the Floodlit Cup is on Hull FC TV, a player well respected on both sides of the river and even now rightly respected throughout the sporting world for being the first black man to captain his country and such like.
www.hullfc.com/hullfctv/classics.php
Sadly in the clip, at 4.40 mins in the clip if you wish to check it out, he runs towards the 3d stand, to be met with people making monkey noises, to a player they chanted the name of only a year or so before.
Moving on thirty years, attitudes have changed for the better, people are more educated and no where near as vile as they used to be towards anyone with a different culture or coloured skin, but still a few are still amongst the population, but Charlie ISN'T one of them.
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There are plenty of English people working in the bars at the KC, not that it matters 2 hoots.'"
So why feel the need to tell me then? (I'm kidding) Look Stan, we can go round the houses on this one time and again, fact is if your daughter gets abuse for having dark skin, that is out of order, and if I were passing in the street and saw or heard it, I would be the first to help out because I would be as disgusted as you.
Where we do differ though is what racism is and to what point does it end. Charlie suggesting that foreign workers struggle to comprehend what he is saying, and struggle to work out the currency as change, isn't racism, no matter what angle it's looked at from.
A clip of Clive Sullivan playing for Rovers against Hull FC in the Floodlit Cup is on Hull FC TV, a player well respected on both sides of the river and even now rightly respected throughout the sporting world for being the first black man to captain his country and such like.
www.hullfc.com/hullfctv/classics.php
Sadly in the clip, at 4.40 mins in the clip if you wish to check it out, he runs towards the 3d stand, to be met with people making monkey noises, to a player they chanted the name of only a year or so before.
Moving on thirty years, attitudes have changed for the better, people are more educated and no where near as vile as they used to be towards anyone with a different culture or coloured skin, but still a few are still amongst the population, but Charlie ISN'T one of them.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_lol.gif'"
Saved myself £20 bar there
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"WHY DOES THE BAR NEED MORE ENGLISH PEOPLE???'"
The worlds gone mad, people have been brainwashed......is there an "ism" for someone who genuinely hates opposing teams fans. Some people are for positive descrimination, does the word possitive make it any better? Before you start waving the race card at me, get yourself in my local, just about every nationality goes in at some time and i have mates of all colours and creeds, hell some are even hull fans People nowadays are getting racism and concern about the over influx of assylum seekers, corcern about imigrants being used as cheap labour, and knowing this small country can't cope with this massive influx, mixed up, this is creating a percieved racist culture.
CC comment was tong in cheek, take it as it was meant and stop trying to create something out of nothing.
I am genuinely saddened to hear about your daughter, and it must be really upsetting for you and your family aswell.
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| why are Rovers fans bothered what nationality the SMC employ to staff the KC's bars? were you all planning on coming down for a pint or a hotdog or something?
you've just made the SL playoffs for the first time ever, is there honestly nothing better for you all to talk about??
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