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| Quote ="Robbo4"No it makes the point that a head coach should be able to behave like an adult in public rather than a spoilt child. Thats our job
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The thing is I've watched the game back twice now, and paused my Sky+ just as Hall is about to release the ball, he's one step over the shadow of the stand, which was parallel to the white line on the pitch, then moved it on, and stopped it when raynor recieves it, he's at least 3 steps past the shadow, and as Hall had stopped running, that takes away the momentum rule, if you try doing as I have, you may change your mind, or you may just carry on calling Rovers fans blinkered, but the blinkers will surely be on anyone who carries on spouting off, without taking the time to check.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"For the benefit of the Robins fans that do not understand what a forward pass is, this is directly from the RFL:
[iThe direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and
not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running
towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards
a colleague who is behind him but because of the thrower’s
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passed the ball forward in relation to himself.[/i
The pass was 100% backwards relative to Craig Hall's run. If it wasn't, the ball would have ended up in front of him (which it didn't). If the ball went forward relative to the ground (which I can't tell from the TV camera views) is irrelevant no matter how close it was. The ball clearly is backwards relative to Hall's run, even at the worst of angles.'"
And there lies your problem, He had stopped
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| Quote ="phil webbo"The thing is I've watched the game back twice now, and paused my Sky+ just as Hall is about to release the ball, he's one step over the shadow of the stand, which was parallel to the white line on the pitch, then moved it on, and stopped it when raynor recieves it, he's at least 3 steps past the shadow, and as Hall had stopped running, that takes away the momentum rule, if you try doing as I have, you may change your mind, or you may just carry on calling Rovers fans blinkered, but the blinkers will surely be on anyone who carries on spouting off, without taking the time to check.'"
Thanks for pointing out again that not only do you not understand the rules of the game you also dont understand the basic laws of physics. Your not related to Stevo are you?
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| Quote ="phil webbo"And there lies your problem, He had stopped'"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"icon_biggrin.gifOH:
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Try watching it again, instead of trying to dish out childish insults, he Stopped, the ball went forward, no amourt of crying on here will change that
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| Quote ="Robbo4"He has never scored a SL try at Craven Park, prior to yesterday. You really should know this stuff what with you being a "fan" and all.'"
you said first game not superleague match
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| Quote ="phil webbo"And there lies your problem, He had stopped'"
Err... no he didn't. He was clearly still moving after he passed the ball, and continued to do so even when Raynor caught it (not that it matters, as momentum will be with the ball during the passing movement, not after the pass has been made).
Regardless of whether he stopped or not, the pass was backwards relative to the momentum of the player AS he passed it.
The only way the ball wouldn't have momentum is if said player was stood still during the pass, which he clearly wasn't. Therefore, the ball had momentum.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"Try watching it again, instead of trying to dish out childish insults, he Stopped, the ball went forward, no amourt of crying on here will change that
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And again, no he didn't.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Err... no he didn't. He was clearly still moving after he passed the ball, and continued to do so even when Raynor caught it (not that it matters, as momentum will be with the ball during the passing movement, not after the pass has been made).
Regardless of whether he stopped or not, the pass was backwards relative to the momentum of the player AS he passed it.
The only way the ball wouldn't have momentum is if said player was stood still during the pass, which he clearly wasn't. Therefore, the ball had momentum.'"
Doh if he had stopped, how can he have momentum
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| Quote ="cheeky charlie"you said first game not superleague match
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I see that selective reading syndrome has kicked in again. Was I discussing the ability of SL coaches in stopping him scoring at the time? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"Try watching it again, instead of trying to dish out childish insults, he Stopped, the ball went forward, no amourt of crying on here will change that
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No he didn't and even if he did it makes absolutely no difference anyway. Pesky things those laws of physics.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"The thing is I've watched the game back twice now, and paused my Sky+ just as Hall is about to release the ball, he's one step over the shadow of the stand, which was parallel to the white line on the pitch, then moved it on, and stopped it when raynor recieves it, he's at least 3 steps past the shadow, and as Hall had stopped running, that takes away the momentum rule, if you try doing as I have, you may change your mind, or you may just carry on calling Rovers fans blinkered, but the blinkers will surely be on anyone who carries on spouting off, without taking the time to check.'"
As someone who has completed biomechanics at university recently, I can tell you now that you do not understand what momentum is.
And not only that, but Hall had not stopped running.
I'll say it again... the only way the ball would not have any momentum is if Craig Hall had been stood still during the pass. If you think he was stood still, you are watching a different game.
It is irrelevant whether he stopped after the pass.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"Doh if he had stopped, how can he have momentum
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The line in which you highlighted was in regards to AFTER the pass, not during.
I also find it very interesting that it is now a case of IF he stopped now. You're not going back on your word are you?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"As someone who has completed biomechanics at university recently, I can tell you now that you do not understand what momentum is.
And not only that, but Hall had not stopped running.
I'll say it again... the only way the ball would not have any momentum is if Craig Hall had been stood still during the pass. If you think he was stood still, you are watching a different game.
It is irrelevant whether he stopped after the pass.'"
I did mine 7 years ago. TBF a primary school kid should be able to understand this stuff
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I see that selective reading syndrome has kicked in again. Was I discussing the ability of SL coaches in stopping him scoring at the time? A simple yes or no will suffice.'"
"Selective reading" is the motto of the week in East Hull it appears.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"As someone who has completed biomechanics at university recently, I can tell you now that you do not understand what momentum is.
And not only that, but Hall had not stopped running.
I'll say it again... the only way the ball would not have any momentum is if Craig Hall had been stood still during the pass. If you think he was stood still, you are watching a different game.
It is irrelevant whether he stopped after the pass.'"
Yeh right, just look at his hand on the close up before the pan shot, it shows the direction of the pass and it seems Silverwood agrees with me professor Welsey
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