Did Kiel also face prosecution for knocking someone out cold (as he said in his HDM interview)

Was he prosecuted?

I'm sure if you stand outside durty nellies you will shocked to find the number on CS in FC shirts, so why not ask them

No

My arguemtn on this is that Pro rugby players should have to do that educational bit as part of there job in the first place.

But the other argument is that cleaning chewing gum off the streets is a multi-million pound business, a guy from Hull has just won the contract to clean the streets of Warrington and Liverpool for a few million pounds so to have CS participants doing it would be taking jobs off people like myself that have been laid off and cant find work.

Ben has a job why give him another one that someone would be glad to be paid to do??

Sending Ben into schools/colleges/youth centres...etc to teach them of how close he came to losing his career and how awful prison really was can only be done by these types of people and not people like myself who've never experienced it and are not top sporting stars.

Would they have taken the same action if one of your academy/u 21's had behaved in the same way? Doubt it very much.Rovers have punished him more than i expected but still not hard enough IMO.....and before you start ranting yes Raynor and all the others who have pushed themselves a step too far should have been shown the door at FC too.

So long as all players are given the same treatment I dont have a problem, Ben deserved jail, but he didn't get it and its not RL's place to start levelling sentencing up to appease public opinion. I would have expected FC, Wigan and the others to have banned their players for a period to show there disgust as well, but after any ban the offenders concerned have a right to earn a living and a right to be given a chance at redemption.

No exceptions based on first team, reserves or even GB status.

Another reason they should expand Hull prison around East Hull?

Why not it would keep you west hull lot out!!!

I thought he’d probably be asked to resign but as someone has already said he’d only be snapped up by another club so I think the board have got the statement and further punishment about right.
He’s on thin ice with the law and the club and his reputation with the local public will take along time to repair if ever, lets move on...

Ben in an england shirt next season.

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same old same old?

all of these opinions were more or less expressed in the previous Cockayne thread

For me, very disappointed he did not go to jail for a bit

disappointed that HKR did not sack him, but can understand why they didn't.

closed subject for me now

You're consistent, if nothing else.

I know the full story of what went on and as I've said before the actions of Ben and Steve Hayward (I know them both well) were over the top. However if you knew what had gone on previous to thompson (who is a bell end) hitting Bens friend, you'd be just as disgusted with what he had done. Hull KR for me have handled this situation well and I'm sure Ben will be keeping his nose clean and getting down to some hard work both on an off the pitch in the coming months. He already helps out at my amateur club and has been involved in coaching since he started playing semi pro so hs been giving back to the community for the entirety of his professional career.

Good idea give the money meant for charity to Ben, he deserves it more.

Glad you agree

wouldn't you struggle with paying the bills for six weeks if say, you adjusted the plumbing in city centre pubs and night clubs without the landlords permission

A real punishment would involve scraping chewing gum off the 4 foot frontage of sir alex fergusons dug out ,he would return to first team action knackered

As an outsider to the club, I would just like to say that I have a lot of respect for the way Hull KR has dealt with Cockayne. They obviously have a vested interest in him, being a valuable member of the team, but the statement clearly shows balance, integrity and a willingness to allow Cockayne to turn his life around. If Iraq has featured in his losing control then this could be an extremely important moment in his life and it could also be beneficial to the club and society as a whole. I'm sure too few violent offenders get opportunities like this from their employers.

So respect to Hull KR for this.



Conversely, I find myself respecting Castleford a little less. Their player had only played once, was a young guy, and they just kicked him out and got all holier than thou about our so-called 'family game'. (When exactly did rugby league adopt this mantle? Was it part of the Sky contract or something?)

Top post, agree with everything.

top post, totaly agree.

What he said. Tip-top post there.

PANCAKE JUGGLER.........