Dear oh dear

True though!



O/T Just seen your sig, must disagree, crowd-wise Leeds are still bigger.

He isnt the only player who has been found to be naughty whilst playing for a Hull club though Neil and some would say that was very lenient as well.
Some people have very short memories Neil not you but some in this thread.
Im not stiring it mate just stating facts.

Made me laugh.

It would seem Bens chance for an England cap is back on. If he keeps playing the way he is, and win us the cup as i expect he will play a major part. For me Bens enthusiasm drove us to were we are now. Now he has been let off lightly he should grasp the opportunity and realise the potential he has got.

Cmon Ben.

I believe it wasn't the first time Raynor had been in trouble with the law but failed to find a similar post from you criticising him.

Double standards me think.

Im actualy not.
Both clubs have thugs in their ranks but I would assume both clubs will stick by them some on this thread seem to have forgotten that fact.
Each club have/will have made their own decisions and will live with them.
I will say that the RFL getting involved may open a can of worms they may want to keep shut tbh!

Won't be the last either.

really glad that ben has not been given time, and i hope that he keeps his mind on the games ahead. thats not to say that he is not a silly boy for what he has done but i hope he moves forward now.

I agree, I was gobsmacked when Raynor (I assume that's who you are referring to) got off with the sentence he did, and Cooke before him.

I think we are in agreement mate like I said and have reaffirmed to Kosh i'm not on a wind up either some should just think before they type.

Agree with this, although perhaps a fine might be added to the list.

As far as sacking him is concerned, he would probably find himself picked up very quickly by either Salford or perhaps another club struggling a bit like Bradford. It would only really be the RFL who could revoke his registration to stop him playing.

With regard to the sentencing, I suppose we have to remember that the prisons are full, and people are getting off with community sentences. A couple of years ago there was a case on TV of a repeat shoplifter (ok thats not as serious) where the judge said he couldn't put him behind bars because there was no room even though he wanted to. This guy then when on tv to talk about it. He had a pretty memorable face (a bit like a cat-weasel). Two days later I'm in John Lewis's and I saw him and thought I know that guy from somewhere. Next thing his stuffing perfume into his pockets. Told security and the nabbed him. Not sure what happened to him after that.

Sentencing is both punishment and risk. I suppose with the publicity of this and the risk it poses to Cockayne's career, then he would not be considered a public risk as the chances of him re-offending are slim (plus he would go straight to jail not passing go if he did.

chasing a man out of a pub and giving him a kicking & then going back to do a bit more damage isnt being a silly boy,its outright thuggery.i wonder how many of you would be so blaise about it had it been a member of your family taking the kicking.ANY player for ANY team should be harshly punished for such a crime.you seem to forget these players are strong athletes, not your average joe.they can do serious damage.

I was on jury service last year on a near identical case to Ben's, needless to say both young men got custodial sentances.

He's been extremely lucky and the fact that he's a sportsman and probably in a position to employ a top lawyer certainly will have helped his case. It's hard to take because if it was a member of joe public no doubt they would be in prison now. Whether it be Raynor,Cooke, Reardon or Pryce this should not be allowed to happen,the justice system is a joke.

He's done well there.

Shocking stuff.

I dis agree 100% thats a load of tosh,wether i support Bens sentence or not is irrelevant, but i fail to see how you can say its a must custodial case?

There are cases in the news week in week out of people getting off with this that and other things ranging from driving offences to murder, I dont believe for a second you were on jury duty and for anyone to suggest the man deserves prison seems based only on the fact that he is a Rovers player.

As has been stated Gareth Raynor who has been a bad boy on more than one or two occassions has gone on to successfuly represent hes country and thrive as a league player(well to a certain standard anyway),I remember having him join in our coaching sessions around four years ago with the kids as part of his community payback.

What i am saying is two wrongs dont make a right but if someone can learn what they have done and truly repent and seek to encourage others to behave better than they have, then even in the harshest of periods some good can come out of something very bad.

Personally, I think he and his friend should have been put in prison because they repeatedly kicked someone in the head whilst they were lying on the floor helpless. Not JUST because he's a Rovers player..

he doesnt deserve prison because he is a rovers player,but because he went back to dish out more.the 1st attack you might claim was in the heat of the moment,but not the second.that is just cowardly.all you backing him should be ashamed of yourselves.

Yet you weekly support a player that pushed a glass into another mans face.

rightly or wrongly he got off lightly, get over it!


he will be back on the field doing what he does best and if he has'nt been tought a lesson over this there is only one place he will end up.

Do I?

I don't remember saying that.

Anyway, this thread is about Cockayne. Try to keep on topic eh

When was the last time someone got a suspended sentence and community service for murder?

Just to spin it about, say for sake of argument, all hyperthetical like, would you view be the same if Cockayne was a FC player? Or is it just becuase he is a Rovers player you've decided people are lying about their jury service and developed the ability to determine posters motives based on 4 lines of text.

No my view regardless of who he played for would not change.

I was asked if i would accept help from G.Raynor as part of his community payback after one of hes mis-demeanors and took him on board, the club name is not important, ai am merely suggesting that people all over our country are getting more lenient sentences so just because Ben has it shouldnt be misconstrewed as something out of the ordinary.

As for the jury case bit, why say anything else? I dont believe the poster did jury service in a case almost exactly the same as Bens so why say any different?