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| Quote ="Vicenzo"In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!'"
Its got nothing to do with HUll FC numbnut, its about RL in general. What part of this entire event is escaping you?
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Its got nothing to do with HUll FC numbnut, its about RL in general. What part of this entire event is escaping you?'"
Sort of answered your own question there chief
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"Which is why I said "on reflection". What Duffen didn't know was how sensitive RL supporters can be!
Let's face the facts here. He is chairman of a club which is in the greatest sporting league in the world and his thoughts will be on staying in it next season. The rewards are in the strasophere and he can be forgiven if in the middle of this he is asked if he can put a game on next season which may bring another of his business interests about £25k. I know where my priorities would lie. Why didn't the RL ask for the game to be on a Sunday or Friday night like all other fixtures?'"
What, like the GF, CC final and other internationals? Or upwards of 40 SL games which will be played on a Saturday.
If he cannot perform his duties as head of the SMC objectively for its owners he should step down.
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!'"
For what, being denied the chance to see two countries competing?
So, where the reasons you were defending prior to todays HDM merely another throw away comment until he wanted to come up with another poor excuse.
Wigan, Huddersfield and Doncaster appear able to accomodate these fixtures prior to Duffens March deadline.
He could get more credibility by simply stating he would rather it was City's stadium and he wanted it solely for football. This is wht he is implying.
Fortunately for the public of Hull, that will not happen (well not in the next 20 years anyway)
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what, being denied the chance to see two countries competing?
So, where the reasons you were defending prior to todays HDM merely another throw away comment until he wanted to come up with another poor excuse.
Wigan, Huddersfield and Doncaster appear able to accomodate these fixtures prior to Duffens March deadline.
He could get more credibility by simply stating he would rather it was City's stadium and he wanted it solely for football. This is wht he is implying.
Fortunately for the public of Hull, that will not happen (well not in the next 20 years anyway)
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TBF i think City fans would be glad to have you out the KC and their chairman definitley would. With Rovers fans it wouldn't matter one iota either way.
So the only public of Hull who would be bothered about it would be you B&W's.
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| THE FACTS
- RL Needed a cast iron/set in stone commitment to a free weekend NOW
- A request to Football League can only be made in MARCH
- The confirmed fixture list comes out in JUNE with no guarantee of this free weekend being granted
Unless SMC took a huge gamble, the decision is correct.
Remember that TV Coverage, Hotel booking for supporters and Teams, Police cover, etc etc does not happen at the drop of a hat.
They take months of planning and months of notice.
If the ONLY time SMC would get a confirmed answer was June, and someone needed an answer - only a moron would agree to hosting the event.
This is good business sense, not one person on her does anything on a hope. You dont work unless you have a PO, you dont do anything till it has been approved, you dot every 'i' and cross every 't'.
Thats SMCs job, and thats exactly what they have done.
A decision like this cannot be made based on emotive factors. They are a Stadium Management company and they managed it correctly.
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| Yeah a request can only be made in March.
Doncaster, Wigan, Huddersfield, Manchester United, Man City, Hull (in the past), QPR, Watford and Blackburn have all had this problem in the past so many years haven't they
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| Quote ="The Key"Yeah a request can only be made in March.
Doncaster, Wigan, Huddersfield, Manchester United, Man City, Hull (in the past), QPR, Watford and Blackburn have all had this problem in the past so many years haven't they
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But they don't have a fair stuck around them for two weekends in october, how many more times?
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| Quote ="ExiledFromHull"THE FACTS
- RL Needed a cast iron/set in stone commitment to a free weekend NOW
- A request to Football League can only be made in MARCH
- The confirmed fixture list comes out in JUNE with no guarantee of this free weekend being granted
Unless SMC took a huge gamble, the decision is correct.
Remember that TV Coverage, Hotel booking for supporters and Teams, Police cover, etc etc does not happen at the drop of a hat.
They take months of planning and months of notice.
If the ONLY time SMC would get a confirmed answer was June, and someone needed an answer - only a moron would agree to hosting the event.
This is good business sense, not one person on her does anything on a hope. You dont work unless you have a PO, you dont do anything till it has been approved, you dot every 'i' and cross every 't'.
Thats SMCs job, and thats exactly what they have done.
A decision like this cannot be made based on emotive factors. They are a Stadium Management company and they managed it correctly.'"
Those are the facts as you see them! I see them a little differently!
- The KC stadium is a community stadium, not owned or run by the FA
- The SMC has been weak and shown no business sense in throwing away a guaranteed sellout and profit making event.
Surely the SMC's job is to maximise the value from such a fantastic facility, it has patently failed to do so in this case.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"Those are the facts as you see them! I see them a little differently!
- The KC stadium is a community stadium, not owned or run by the FA
- The SMC has been weak and shown no business sense in throwing away a guaranteed sellout and profit making event.
Surely the SMC's job is to maximise the value from such a fantastic facility, it has patently failed to do so in this case.'"
Absolutely bang on from Barnacle Bill. Mind you, don't expect anybody to believe you or Duffen!
The KC is a Community Stadium which is managed in total by SMC which makes all the decisions as to usage outside of the normal tenants requirements...FACT!
I honestly don'tthink PD could give a monkeys s*it about a so called "guaranteed sellout" in the light of the fact that Hull City's games bring more revenue into the SMC than a one off possible sell out. Are you telling me that if the game was against anyone but Australia it would still sell out. History proves otherwise. If you don't believe what PD said then tough! I do!
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what, being denied the chance to see two countries competing?
So, where the reasons you were defending prior to todays HDM merely another throw away comment until he wanted to come up with another poor excuse.
Wigan, Huddersfield and Doncaster appear able to accomodate these fixtures prior to Duffens March deadline.
He could get more credibility by simply stating he would rather it was City's stadium and he wanted it solely for football. This is wht he is implying.
Fortunately for the public of Hull, that will not happen (well not in the next 20 years anyway)
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I think he waited until today to make a measured and honest reply as to why he could not commit to that date. If the RL supporters of Hull do not want to believe him I don't think he would lose any sleep TBH!
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what, being denied the chance to see two countries competing?
So, where the reasons you were defending prior to todays HDM merely another throw away comment until he wanted to come up with another poor excuse.
Wigan, Huddersfield and Doncaster appear able to accomodate these fixtures prior to Duffens March deadline.
He could get more credibility by simply stating he would rather it was City's stadium and he wanted it solely for football. This is what we want to believe he is implying.
Fortunately for the public of Hull, that will not happen (well not in the next 20 years anyway)
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| Duffen was on the M62 in his White Lambergini as i travelled to Saints.
Nice Motor.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Duffen was on the M62 in his White Lambergini as i travelled to Saints.
Nice Motor.
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can we have a sticky?
wheres duffen?!
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Duffen was on the M62 in his White Lambergini as i travelled to Saints.
Nice Motor.
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Tacky! Used to have a gorgeous Aston.
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"Absolutely bang on from Barnacle Bill. Mind you, don't expect anybody to believe you or Duffen!
The KC is a Community Stadium which is managed in total by SMC which makes all the decisions as to usage outside of the normal tenants requirements...FACT!
I honestly don'tthink PD could give a monkeys s*it about a so called "guaranteed sellout" in the light of the fact that Hull City's games bring more revenue into the SMC than a one off possible sell out. Are you telling me that if the game was against anyone but Australia it would still sell out. History proves otherwise. If you don't believe what PD said then tough! I do!'" Why don't you go and watch City because your contribution to Rugby League is pointless.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Why don't you go and watch City because your contribution to Rugby League is pointless.'"
Season ticket holder and proud of it!
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| City would not have to play away the weekend of the non international all they needed to do was tell the FL/PL that they would have to play on a sunday if the fixtures popped up a home fixture for that weekend.
Its not rocket science, they do it all the time during the regular RL season, FC will play on a Friday/Saturday/Sunday depending on City or Sky. Games are moved by Sky at a whim for television, Duffen just did not want the good people of Hull to have an international end of.
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| Quote ="Big Spender"TBF i think City fans would be glad to have you out the KC and their chairman definitley would. With Rovers fans it wouldn't matter one iota either way.
So the only public of Hull who would be bothered about it would be you B&W's.'"
I was thinking a bit more bigger picture on the basis its a community facility. The lack of concerts at the stadium since Duffen took over affects more than just B&W fans.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Edited for accuracy.'"
no need for the edit.
He has made it perfectly clear with his general distain
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| Just for the record, does anyone know what fixture they offered the KC?
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"Just for the record, does anyone know what fixture they offered the KC?'"
World Champions.....New Zealand.
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| And do you think it would have been a 25,000 sell out?
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"And do you think it would have been a 25,000 sell out?'"
bet it woulod have got at least 20k, worth putting it on
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"And do you think it would have been a 25,000 sell out?'"
I don't really understand your position on this point. 20,0000, 22,0000 or 25,0000 it could have been a profit making event [uin addition[/u to City's home games not in replacement of one.
Not only that it would have spotlighted the KC as a venue, Hull as a city and RL's importance and standing within the community. How can you not see this?
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