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this is nothing to do with clutching etc...we lost...
that has jack all to do with this..
i`m just highlighting a section of a story in the national newspaper..... which IF the RFL show consistency should potentially lead to a 2pt deduction the same as salford got...
jack all to do with sour grapes, jack all to do with losing...
As another has stated... this is a rule break ,one that teams do know is punishable and it should not matter who a team is as to whether it gets punished or not....
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As FC fans you should maybe get or be a little worried about this, simply because of the ramifications it could have at this time of year...losing 2pts now will not be so easy to claw back ......
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"Rules is rules and Hull should face punishment.
Then again , its the RFL were talking about.'"
Can you post a link to the rule, please. |
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| Quote ="KR_RRTR_KR2"As FC fans you should maybe get or be a little worried about this, simply because of the ramifications it could have at this time of year...losing 2pts now will not be so easy to claw back ......'"
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A bit of straw clutching going on here lol
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The RFL will do diddly squat and too right in my opinion. Lineham was in no way in any sort of position to do anything to affect the play and Pitts was allowed to go on by the 4th official as Lineham went off at the east stand side of the pitch. If Hull FC get a similar punishment to Salford for this, then they should feel extremely hard done by imo. |
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Can you post a link to the rule, please.'"
Are you saying there are no rules regards the number of players on the pitch ? |
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Salford were fined and appealed. The fine was halved but 2 points were deducted as well.
So the precedent is that we could get a fine and then the best advice would say take it on the chin and pay. The points deduction is only a precedent if a club appeals.
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"Are you saying there are no rules regards the number of players on the pitch ?'"
No, he's asking you to post a link to the relevant rule. |
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| Quote ="Chris28"No, he's asking you to post a link to the relevant rule.'"
big brother fighting his battles |
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| The Salford incident was clearly different:
Quote ="The RFL"Salford were charged after Castleford pointed out that three plays took place while the Reds had an extra man on the pitch after making a substitution three minutes from the end of their home match against the Tigers.
Prop forward Darrell Griffin, who was due to be substituted by the Reds, stayed on the field and made a tackle near his own line before going to the bench.'" |
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"big brother fighting his battles'"
Different poster able to understand what someone has typed.... |
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| Quote ="bishops finger"A bit of straw clutching going on here lol'"
NOPE NONE WHATSOEVER.
just following up on something read in a paper...
do i state anywhere were i think it should lead to or of been a rovers win?.....erm NO
do i state that it should mean anything other than a fc win in the derby?.........erm ...NO |
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| Quote ="The RFL"Salford City Reds have been docked two competition points and fined £5,000 by an RFL Operational Rules Appeals Tribunal for fielding 14 players during a Super League fixture against Castleford Tigers on Saturday April 27.
The Tribunal handed down the increased sanction after rejecting Salford’s appeal against the original fine of £10,000 imposed at a hearing on May 8.
Salford were deemed to be in breach of Operational Rules B1.1 (General Competition Rules - Laws of the Game); B2:4 (Match Day Operations Manual (section D15 – Interchange); and D1.8 (a) (serious or persistent breach of the RFL Operational Rules).
The sanction relates to an incident in the 77th minute of the match when Salford player Darrell Griffin and the player who was replacing him from the interchange bench, Vic Mauro, both became involved in tackles whilst the club had 14 players on the field of play. Salford won the fixture 34-30'"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The Salford incident was clearly different:
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but STILL A BREACH OF THE RULES
that is the point made in the news report and why i also posted the thread... |
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| Quote ="KR_RRTR_KR2"but STILL A BREACH OF THE RULES
that is the point made in the news report and why i also posted the thread...'"
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Poor poor people. Cling on its all you've got.
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| Quote ="KR_RRTR_KR2"but STILL A BREACH OF THE RULES
that is the point made in the news report and why i also posted the thread...'"
The 4th official clearly needs punishing for this catastrophic error. I hope they throw the book at him. Or a pint pot. |
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| Quote ="hull smallears"The 4th official clearly needs punishing for this catastrophic error. I hope they throw the book at him. Or a pint pot.'"
oh dear.....yet another without the grasp on the interchange rules.. now do keep up
THEY ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY A 4TH OFFICIAL...... NO OFFICIAL OF ANY SORT SAYS YES OR NO TO ENTERING THE PITCH..
it is controlled by the TEAMS.... NOT the Ref, NOT the linesman, NOT the reserve ref, NOT the time keeper and NOT the Match commissioner...
THIS IS WHY TEAMS FALL FOUL OF THE RULE....... but lets not let a fact get in the way eh!!!! |
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| Quote ="KR_RRTR_KR2"oh dear.....yet another without the grasp on the interchange rules.. now do keep up
THEY ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY A 4TH OFFICIAL...... NO OFFICIAL OF ANY SORT SAYS YES OR NO TO ENTERING THE PITCH..
it is controlled by the TEAMS.... NOT the Ref, NOT the linesman, NOT the reserve ref, NOT the time keeper and NOT the Match commissioner...
THIS IS WHY TEAMS FALL FOUL OF THE RULE....... but lets not let a fact get in the way eh!!!!'"
In the letter of the law you are probably right, but by the spirit you are way off the mark. the play was carrying on he took no part & was trying to get off the pitch, should FC play a man short untill he limps accross the field? If it was Rovers I would be livid. We lost, move on, it's Leeds next. |
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| Quote ="KR_RRTR_KR2"oh dear.....yet another without the grasp on the interchange rules.. now do keep up
THEY ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY A 4TH OFFICIAL...... NO OFFICIAL OF ANY SORT SAYS YES OR NO TO ENTERING THE PITCH..
it is controlled by the TEAMS.... NOT the Ref, NOT the linesman, NOT the reserve ref, NOT the time keeper and NOT the Match commissioner...
THIS IS WHY TEAMS FALL FOUL OF THE RULE....... but lets not let a fact get in the way eh!!!!'"
Strange that, because the RFL list the following in their Operational Rules
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"Match Official"
any of the following:
(a) referee;
(b) touch judge;
(c) in-goal judge;
(d) fourth official/reserve referee;
(e) the match commissioner;
(f) the interchange official; and
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| Quote ="KR_RRTR_KR2"oh dear.....yet another without the grasp on the interchange rules.. now do keep up
THEY ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY A 4TH OFFICIAL...... NO OFFICIAL OF ANY SORT SAYS YES OR NO TO ENTERING THE PITCH..
it is controlled by the TEAMS.... NOT the Ref, NOT the linesman, NOT the reserve ref, NOT the time keeper and NOT the Match commissioner...
THIS IS WHY TEAMS FALL FOUL OF THE RULE....... but lets not let a fact get in the way eh!!!!'"
Substitutes 2. (a) Each team may nominate a maximum of four replacements before the start of the game. Their names along with those of the players must be given to the referee before the start of the game. A maximum of 12 interchanges will be allowed from the 17 named players.
[uSubstitutions shall be sanctioned by the Referee or by an official appointed to oversee the substitution process.[/u
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/official_laws/4_players_and_equipmentRFL Rules[/url |
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Just give it up. The lad was injured, not interfering wth play and virtually off the pitch. Rules are great but common sense needs to prevail a little.
For the record, the penalty try was about right.
Sick of officials not being able to judge forward passes though. Happens in every games but doesn't mean we should just accept it as 'part of the game'.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Strange that, because the RFL list the following in their Operational Rules
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then how do teams manage to break the rules and have more than 13 players on the pitch... |
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| Quote ="KR_RRTR_KR2"then how do teams manage to break the rules and have more than 13 players on the pitch...'"
And how many times has it happened? Salford this season, Saints v Hull a few years back...
Officials make mistakes, occasionally you know 
Perhaps you should check facts before posting (and putting it IN CAPITALS doesn't make it true, btw). |
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