But the rules have been different for Toronto from the start...and not in a good way. An example would be no central funding whatsoever and the expense, paid for by Toronto for flights, rooms, etc. You are trying to have your cake and eat it too...I don't blame you. And I don't know about them being just the same as other teams, seems to be alot of anti Toronto bias floating around these days...just stating the facts.

Toulouse plays a wide open game and if they get in the groove I honestly feel they could literally beat anyone, even Toronto. The trick is to disrupt their flow immediately....or points will be racked up against you quickly...SL team or not.

I would worry more about Toronto though...if a hungry wolf is at the tent flap in the deep bush you should give him your full attention... shouldn't be worrying about the porcupine behind the tree by the fire.
Open that tent door and let us in......well we all know how that one plays out.

All 4 Championship sides are capable enough. Leigh and Fev wouldn't have been out of their depth either.Toulose and London play a fairly open game from what I've seen and last middle 8s I thought London's back 5 were probably the slickest unit in the comp?Yes we have been on an upward curve last month or so and the team looks strong but im still nervous as a fan and a win on Friday would make me a whole lot more confident

Sick of hearing about Toronto.lunatic idea. Not surprised it's caught a Chorley Jean/ Canoe multiple.Dont converse with it

Having been here bedore every year, I just hope we can replicate 2015. The big difference between 2016 and now is that in '16 we couldn't close out games. However, we are still fragile if we lose key players. We do have depth but sone of them are weak (Marsh and Lee).

Hopefully J Carney and Vaivai will be ready again and maybe Lawler. I think the combo of Hall and Crooks on one side and Vaivai and Carney on the other is quite potent. Atkin and Mags of course and Lunt with Lawler as an interchange. That's where T Carney comes in. If Lawler not fit, Atkin as Lunt interchange and T Carney and Mags at halfback. We've plenty of decent forwards at the moment even if our strongest weapon is suspended for the first game.

1. Welding glasses on. CHECK
2. Earplugs in. CHECK
3. Extra wide tinfoil hat on. CHECK
4. Closed mind. CHECK

Okay, looks like I'm ready for the playoffs.

I'm a fax fan. I've backed KR at 3/1 to come top.
How on earth the bookies have Leeds at around 6/5???

They are in for a massive shock. Believe me.

Thanks for that vote of confidence.

I hope Fax pick up a win or two, if not more (just not against us). I think Widnes and Leeds are there for the taking at the moment. I also think Toronto might choke. Rowley has previous in this area.

Cheers Jeff,

I can understand why Leeds are favourites when you look at their squad and their past performances over the longer term, but when you break down their recent form I'm sure there will be some squeaky bums in the Leeds camp.

We know from experience that the Championship clubs pose a threat and if teams like Fax get themselves into the game, they are very hard to shake off. If Scruton hadn't crashed over with 5 minutes left in the qualifier game last year we would have found that out the hard way!

I don't think Leeds are going to have any great difficulties in retaining their Super League place.

They start with games against Toulouse at home and then a trip to London. That should give them a good start and build their confidence. With another 3 home games after that and an away game at Halifax they should easily accumulate at least 5 wins.

You mean over and above providing a professional immigration consultant which Wolfpack pays for?

Canoe whatsisface hasn’t been around for a while now, I don’t expect he will be back round these parts.

“Run with the Pack’” my ar$e

Leeds.

Too nervous to enjoy anything at the moment.

Bricking it.

'Nuff said.

Think we have a good chance of the win

Thaler as ref which may be a good thing in this case as Ablett and friends may not get away with their normal tery?

I’m unavailable on Saturday due to rib injuries I just sustained

Anything good on telly?

Not really, gonna put some 80’s music on and nurse my injury

These things happen. I think injuries were a large factor? I stood in the freezing cold whilst Wigan blitzed us 84_6 and it's not nice as a fan.i can see the funny side with it being live on Sky and them taking a real dry bumming but I have a little sympathy with the few coach load who have trekked over there on a Thursday night.I was on way back from Manchester at 3pm and it was shocking congestion going west even then.Long way to go for a beating of the highest order.Not gonna take the Pee over much as our game on Saturday is foremost in mind .

At least they’ve only got Wigan and Saints to play away now it does make there board a lot more interesting when things aren’t going well though we can have a little chuckle about it

Anybody know how Jake is. Long 80 minutes that.
Still they continue to break records which is a positive.

Loves East Hull does radders

Ground out 2 massive wins so far. However, we must keep the same standard or better against Fax and London and treat them with respect otherwise we will look stupid and will undo the hard work done so far.

Scott Murrell still likes coming home and trying to get one over on us and I'm sure Mr K. Dixon will want to prove a point as well.

Dixon is bang average championship player in a bang average championship team, Murrell may like coming 'home' but he is no threat to us surely, he is a reasonable part time player.

If we fear these two we may as well plan for relegation now.

I think the true source of the fear is internal/psychological more than external - because we've seen it go wrong before and we know how little margin for error there is.

We should win each of these games - but if we were to lose either we'd be under huge pressure again, and that makes these games pressured themselves. The risk should be fairly small, but the hazard remains sizable. These are good Championship teams - we don't need to be fearful, but our players do need to play with energy and desire. If we just roll up expecting our opponents to rollover, we could very easily get mugged.

Yep, my point exactly. Thankfully the last couple of quotes HDM have given from the players seem to back up this thought as well.

Been here too many times losing to so-called lesser clubs after herculean efforts in a prior game to beat the odds. Halifax and London still need to be respected. They were not in the top 4 of the championship for nothing.

Plus, if we ease off that doesn't help prepare for Toulouse away or Widnes at home.

We may have beaten Toronto and Leeds, but those wins alone won't get us back into SL next year.