Dave, this is totally the wrong place for a Hull fan to seek love & affection, honestly.

Dave K. Has come on here and given an alternate view.

The posters; "His Bobness", " Duane Dibley"and the other one, "Des Lawson", knock him down, not for his views, but because he's a Hull fan.

I agree chaps that he has committed a heinous crime in his choice of club, but should we really be so insular to stymie all debate?

Dave is a decent poster (for a hull fan)we have had a lot worse on here from the dark side I didn't agree with much he had to say tonight but that's what it's all about isn't it differing opinions

You need somebody who can't see through you, is happy living a lie

Dave i have read all your posts and at 1st i did believe you was digging at rovers for digging sake (derby week n all) but as you have gone on it seems a genuine concern or disappointment as teams can't just pull local lads from there academy, but as a fan of hull kr i would love nothing more than a team full of young hull lads but it's just not possible, against Leeds at weekend was the closest we have had i think 7 academy lads and 12 English players all together that must be our best super league era in this department, anyway I'm rambling on the point I'm making is do you not think your gripe is a problem with the game it's self and how it is run rather than having a problem with certain clubs? with the step up from 19s to 1st team being to big and not possible really look at us loaning Greenwood from Wigan he is 23 years old and not anywhere near there 1st team yet but they went out and loaned larne Patrick the game is on its knees in this area and clubs are doing all they can to make there 1st team as strong as possible

Very rare that insults don't come into play on here, some people are to quick to want to jump in and spoil any chance of a thread ever getting into a decent debate, and it's usually the same posters too with there pathetic name calling.

I believe we had a prop in the most recent England U19's squad, doesn't mean he's ready for slut yet though so TP will hopefully come in and do a good job

The problem we have is that our U19 props just aren't big enough to cope with the rigours of SL, and it would need to be about 5 weeks worth of Sl at that. The merits of signing Greenwood may be obvious but maybe Wigan didn't want to sell?

I'm not sure about signing TP but we had a light pack at the start of the season, the subsequent Weyman and Bailey situations destroyed what size we had and we only really replaced Weyman with Tilse and we know how that went.

I really think that this position is pretty unprecedented, 5 props down from our anticipated season start position. Weyman, Bailey, Allgood, Walker, Burke, (Tilse not included as he replaced Weyman) and I doubt any club could have dealt with this through their youth system.

Some fair points, one thing is for sure if he plays I'm putting a bet on him scoring on Saturday.

I hope you are right, but I do not care who we sign on loan or permanent what i do care about is they play well for us and give 100%

I'm pretty sure this is some sort of negative comment aimed towards me but unless you write it in a coherent sentence I have no idea what you mean.

Tony Puletua was our best forward during the second-half of last season. Just consider he hasn't played all year and therefore isn't likely to be match fit but given his experience and hunger to be back on the pitch I am more than confident he'll put in a good shift.

Best of luck Tony P!

If this was the case, I'm not doubting it by the way, then why was he left on the outside this season? I'm assuming it was all to do with cap space and quota spots as with you're recent injury / suspension status I would assume he'd have been used.

Yes, signed too many overseas players and Puletua still had a year left on his contract. Poor management by the club, of a great servant to the game. I hope he enjoys his time with Hull KR and finishes his career in the right way.

I believe dave is a decent poster,and I dont recall having a go at him,but im sure you will point out where i did.

In my opinion for what it is worth I believe TP is a good signing for the rest of the season until we get some bodies back at least he will add some wanted size and experience. With regards to young lads coming from under 19's to first team the real problem and I have been saying it for years is lack of reserve grade to help them do there apprenticeship theft do not learn of accadamy coaches what it's like to go in to battle against men you need some experience to show you the ropes.
I am led to believe they are bringing back reserve grade teams in the NRL next year so maybe we will follow suit. It has been stated it costs £100k to run a reserve team if we have 5 overseas players knock £20k off each one and run an a team or get the RFL to pay half of the cost if they are thinking about a Marquee player they should also seriously consider a team football, do away with under 16 & 19 let the youth setup look after that age group and just bring the cream from the top through a teams it worked before Superleague it will work again

NRL sides already run reserve sides in the Queensland and NSW cups

Totally different competition

Given our current circumstances, it's not a bad, 'bad' acquisition. Cox stills looks short fitness wise, so if we can spell him with TP then we should be ok. Minutes from Green and Greenwood and suddenly we've got the luxury of 4 man front row rotation. It's hard to imagine any foresight been able to predict how hard we'd be hit in the front row this season, but if there's been one good thing, it's the development of James Green. The additional responsibility and time on the pitch, has kicked his development on light years. Been impressed with him. I really hope him and Walker are leading our pack in the coming years.


I also hope our incoming football manager next season looks to target the front row and get the building blocks in place to find the right formula to move 'forward'. As on a wider issue be it poor recruitment/bad luck/lack of development/other ... our front row evolution has been very hit and (mainly) miss in recent years and we've certainly lacked any cohesion in the front row. We just seemed to have patched up the cracks every year ...

This could turn out to be 2015's "Jason Chan" moment. Welcome aboard TP.

Not going to comment on the bicker-fest that's gone on while I've been away. It's a well-trodden path whenever a player arrives.

Not buying any of this faux outrage coming from anyone that Rovers have had to dip into the loan market. Weyman, Bailey, Walker, Allgood, Tilse, Burke all gone from our front row and people think that that should be sustainable because our academy recently got rated 'good'?
No academy in the league has the strength in depth in their 19s to sort that dilemma out. Throwing in kids to the front row who are physically unprepared for the strains of super league football would be hugely detrimental to their development.

Spot on, and faux outrage sums it up perfectly. Dress it up how they like, it's just inter club point scoring. With the injuries we have and the difficulty in finding any SL quality forward at this stage of the season we should be very happy with this signing.

Well said.

At the risk of repeating all that's been said before including by me, our current front row crisis is unprecedented and our back rowers are below size by SL standards.

We have no props who can make the step up from the U19s at the mo. So TP is and will be a good acquisition and we have to be grateful that Salford have cocked up on their overseas signings this year.

Finally, well done to Dave K for getting us to almost 10 pages on this thread. Shame you're a Derty berd, though. You need some re-lobotomising to get rid of your dark side tendencies.

As much as I'd like to see A teams brought back, it could open a right can of worms salary cap and running costs wise.
Would there be a limit on salaries paid in the A team? If not would this enable the richer teams to run with bigger squads, or would money paid to "A.N Others" count on the main cap.
It's all sortable, but looking at the way the clowns in charge run our game you've got to wonder.

I think this could be a good acquisition by Rovers .....Being the consummate professional that Puletua is, I don't think he would like his last year within the game to be tarnished with the dispute he had at Salford. I think he would like to go out with a bang and finish his career with memorable performances, so, hopefully, Rovers will benefit from this giant of a man within his twilight year .....Fingers crossed!

I personally believe that Rovers should be thrown out of Superleague over this heinous behavior.

In addition, I believe that the Magic game should be changed to 4pm Sunday.