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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I think its unfair to compare players who are injured through no fault of their own with players who aren't pulling their weight.
I think we've had our money's worth out of Richard Horne in the last 10 years.
Lets face it you've also had a few who've taken the money without delivering the goods - Michael Smith, Garret Crossman, David Mills to name three.'"
Be fair though, those 3 are the only 3 who Morgan "got wrong" if you like.
I think morgan's recruitment outside these 3 has been top class.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Not so sure it is an exception, you paid Cookie for sitting in the stands for long periods.'"
Played 65 times in a little under 3 seasons (according to Wiki, at least). Had the odd quiet game, along the way like
I've got a Barista-sized feast of negative quotes and facts surrounding Hull players past and present [url=http://viewforum.php?f=34 on my doorstep[/url, at the moment, if you want to meet me 'round the back of [ubicker thread[/u.
Right it was probably me that de-railed it, but... Willie Mason, not here, being paid, gonna be [iBRILLIANT[/i
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| Quote ="Roverswall"I see so you are now saying that is Mason's fault that the UKBA are dragging their heels are you?'"
Er......no
How do you come to that conclusion?
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Er......no
How do you come to that conclusion?'" We were talking about Willie Mason not being here.
I mentioned injured players not playing for you as a comparison the the dig about Mason getting payed but not playing and you said this.
Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I think its unfair to compare players who are injured through no fault of their own with players who aren't pulling their weight.'" So tell me how else to take it?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"We were talking about Willie Mason not being here.
I mentioned injured players not playing for you as a comparison the the dig about Mason getting payed but not playing and you said this.
So tell me how else to take it?'"
I was responding to your post at 5.44pm in which you implied that Long, Horne, Dykes and Calderwood were being paid for doing nothing.
I said it was not their fault they were injured. There is a difference between injured players and underperforming players.
For the record I do not think its Mason's fault that his visa has not come through. In fact I think the UKBA's treatment of RL players' visa applications is a disgrace.
Clear enough for you?
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I was responding to your post at 5.44pm in which you implied that Long, Horne, Dykes and Calderwood were being paid for doing nothing.
I said it was not their fault they were injured. There is a difference between injured players and underperforming players.
For the record I do not think its Mason's fault that his visa has not come through. In fact I think the UKBA's treatment of RL players' visa applications is a disgrace.
Clear enough for you?'" Yes that is fine we agree that Mason is as helpless as injured players are in that they are unable to play even though it isn't their fault although it was you that started being clever with this.
Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"That's ok then, he's only received 3 months wages for doing nowt, not 5.'"
So which is it?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Yes that is fine we agree that Mason is as helpless as injured players are in that they are unable to play even though it isn't their fault although it was you that started being clever with this.
So which is it?'"
WormInHand said Rovers had been paying Mason since Octoberish. Philb said since December. Thats 3 months rather than 5. Its not Mason's fault; its down to either Rovers or UKBA. Take your pick.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"WormInHand said Rovers had been paying Mason since Octoberish. Philb said since December. Thats 3 months rather than 5. Its not Mason's fault; its down to either Rovers or UKBA. Take your pick.'" You have already said yourself that it's down to UKBA's shoddy treatment of RL players.
So taking that as read what is the diffrence between a player who is getting shaffed by the UKBA or a player who gets injured.
Neither wanted it to happen, Both would much rather be playing RL.
Yet you see fit to say that one is getting paid for nowt whilst the other isn't and is infact unlucky I guess
You can't have it both ways.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"WormInHand said Rovers had been paying Mason since Octoberish. Philb said since December. Thats 3 months rather than 5. Its not Mason's fault; its down to either Rovers or UKBA. Take your pick.'"
Philb's timescales are probably right. But the crucial point is that Mason[i should[/i have been paid since December. And his signing-on fee, too.
It now appears that the decision on his visa should have been made in early January, according to the Fijian (who process the Tongan applications) timescales.
So the visa has either been refused, or......
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| Quote ="Roverswall"You have already said yourself that it's down to UKBA's shoddy treatment of RL players.
So taking that as read what is the diffrence between a player who is getting shaffed by the UKBA or a player who gets injured.
Neither wanted it to happen, Both would much rather be playing RL.
Yet you see fit to say that one is getting paid for nowt whilst the other isn't and is infact unlucky I guess
You can't have it both ways.'"
I can because thats not what I said. I was differentiating between injured players and underperforming players, not between injured players and those awaiting a visa.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I can because thats not what I said. I was differentiating between injured players and underperforming players, not between injured players and those awaiting a visa.'" Not right at the start with your cheap dig you wern't.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Not right at the start with your cheap dig you wern't.'"
Another sleepless night Roverswall?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Another sleepless night Roverswall?'" Kids it happens.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Kids it happens.'" Speaking of which.........
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Speaking of which.........'"
.... she's pregnant again???
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| Like this cheap dig?
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| Out of interest do you have any pics of Mason in a Rovers kit for promotional/merchandise purposes?
Although he is not across here playing he could still be earning some of his wages by promoting the club to the fans through different media outlets.
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| I'd done some gags...they were mildly amusing...
How do you get rid of dinner guests?
They just won't feck off... I'm rather tired.
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| Worked it out.
I'll be dead.
Well, maybe pretend to be dead..
Eek, they're (plural innit grammar Police) coming up the stairs...
Feint imminent.
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| Quote ="pmh"I'd done some gags...they were mildly amusing...
How do you get rid of dinner guests?
They just won't feck off... I'm rather tired.'"
The only thing that works is coming downstairs in your pyjamas ,winding an alarm clock up.
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| Quote ="pmh"Worked it out.
I'll be dead.
Well, maybe pretend to be dead..
Eek, they're (plural innit grammar Police) coming up the stairs...
Feint imminent.'"
Bally hell, you're as pickled as a mongoose. Still, it's a state Roverswall can only dream of, in his matchstick propping misery.
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| Quote ="WormInHand".... she's pregnant again???
'" No one of em was playing up.
18 months and 5 months its to be expected I guess.
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