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| Therefor, i don't know if you agree,but the the rfl would be on very dodgy ground to ban cockayne legally, wether we believe them to be right or wrong.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Thanks.
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| Quote ="TheOmen†666†"Therefor, i don't know if you agree,but the the rfl would be on very dodgy ground to ban cockayne legally, wether we believe them to be right or wrong.'"
A stand has to be made sometime, to much has gone under the bridge and not been dealt with . I have no doubt alot worse has been done by other aspects of our game than Ben C, but it was on camera and the book has to stop somewhere . RL as other sports needs to keep its image clean .
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| I agree, but where to start is another matter....off to my pit now, a couple a games to watch tomorrow(edit...today) in the local, one with said controversial captain and the other one.....the one that gives more of us all a chance
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| Quote ="TheOmen†666†"I agree, but where to start is another matter....off to my pit now, a couple a games to watch tomorrow(edit...today) in the local, one with said controversial captain and the other one.....the one that gives more of us all a chance
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The draw will be good i have no doubt .
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| Quote ="General Zod."Cas are pathetic.
Why? Because the young lad who has been sacked (whether right or wrong) has only played one reserve grade game all season - at the age of 20, evidence which indicates he did not feature in their plans so they used this opportunity to sack him for the sake of their own PR.
Look at the facts;
- They've signed Dwayne Barker who spent some time in the nick.
- They re-signed Ryan Hudson who has served 2 yrs for taking performance enhancing drugs.
- They signed the most famous drugs cheat in Britain in signing Dwayne Chambers FFS.
- They even made a big effort to sign Ben Cockayne being full aware of this court case, even agreeing terms.
Richard Wright's conflicting statements about his views on no relegation from when they were in SL to when they were not is something else tha irritates me.'"
Yeah, of course they are!!
Do you know the reason he has played one game for the reserves? No, didnt think so. He could not of played for the reserves in the games he was not selected anyway!!!
Once again you are way out of your depth, along the lines of the whole 'John Dixon' saga
Anyone who kicks a bloke in the head deserves sacking, fecking coward!!!
Castleford have done the right thing, lets see if Rovers have a backbone or if they will just try and sweep it under the carpet.
Knowing the real reason how Paul Lakin lost his job, and several other staff members I would back on the latter
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| Quote ="Bandito"Yeah, of course they are!!
Do you know the reason he has played one game for the reserves? No, didnt think so. He could not of played for the reserves in the games he was not selected anyway!!!
Once again you are way out of your depth, along the lines of the whole 'John Dixon' saga
Anyone who kicks a bloke in the head deserves sacking, fecking coward!!!
Castleford have done the right thing, lets see if Rovers have a backbone or if they will just try and sweep it under the carpet.
Knowing the real reason how Paul Lakin lost his job, and several other staff members I would back on the latter
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perhaps your brave enough to tell him this?
also, don't remember ryan bailey or gareth raynor being sacked for equally distasteful crimes. must just be rovers who are expected to do the "decent thing" then, whilst a posse of clubs wait on standby
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| Quote ="sandy"perhaps your brave enough to tell him this?
also, don't remember ryan bailey or gareth raynor being sacked for equally distasteful crimes. must just be rovers who are expected to do the "decent thing" then, whilst a posse of clubs wait on standby
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what do you suggest he's going to do to i someone does call him a coward to his face?
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"what do you suggest he's going to do to i someone does call him a coward to his face?'" don't worry he will get his just rewards,they always do.
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| Quote ="sandy"perhaps your brave enough to tell him this?
also, don't remember ryan bailey or gareth raynor being sacked for equally distasteful crimes. must just be rovers who are expected to do the "decent thing" then, whilst a posse of clubs wait on standby
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Yeah no problem.
When I got 3 months for ONE PUNCH in Waterfront the Judge was quick to point out that the fact I was a Professional Boxer meant my hands were lethal weapons.
Where is the difference??
It stinks, Judges should be forced to answer to someone on why they decide to pass such weak sentences.
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| At the very least the RFL should ban him for a period of time. They have a responsibility to protect players and anyone capable of kicking someone in the head in ‘the heat of them moment’ must be a risk. How many ‘heat of the moments’ occur during a game?
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| Quote ="Banger"At the very least the RFL should ban him for a period of time. They have a responsibility to protect players and anyone capable of kicking someone in the head in ‘the heat of them moment’ must be a risk. How many ‘heat of the moments’ occur during a game?'"
pathetic, how many games has he played since the incident. 1st class twit!
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| Quote ="Bandito"Yeah, of course they are!!
Do you know the reason he has played one game for the reserves? No, didnt think so. He could not of played for the reserves in the games he was not selected anyway!!!
Once again you are way out of your depth, along the lines of the whole 'John Dixon' saga
Anyone who kicks a bloke in the head deserves sacking, fecking coward!!!
Castleford have done the right thing, lets see if Rovers have a backbone or if they will just try and sweep it under the carpet.
Knowing the real reason how Paul Lakin lost his job, and several other staff members I would back on the latter
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Oh dear, here comes Mr Bandito and his inane outlook.
WFT are you talking about - out of my depth? out of my depth for what - for stating what that particular situation [uindicates[/u? - And even taking away the sacking of the lad, Castleford's track record validates they not a club high on morales.
You're outlook on things is bizzare with your ramblings as a "I know RL celebrities type bollox" as if it's some kind of badge. Infact, I've spoken to a rugby league "celebrity" who has been upset by your inane ramblings on this site.
Oh and you really need to let go of your bitterness towards Rovers, it will only eat you away...
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| Quote ="Bandito"
Anyone who kicks a bloke in the head deserves sacking, fecking coward!!!
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OK let's just think about that. You're saying he should be sacked, fine. But if the crime "deserves" the sack we can reasonably take it that someone who has committed such a crime does not "deserve" to be re-employed and in fact they couldn't be because then anyone the new employer had sacked for kicking someone in the head would have very strong grounds for a case of unfair dismissal...hmmm how does that work then?
Are you sure you don't mean, "Since he is employed by Hull KR he should be sacked, otherwise it wouldn't make the slightest difference to me"
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"OK let's just think about that. You're saying he should be sacked, fine. But if the crime "deserves" the sack we can reasonably take it that someone who has committed such a crime does not "deserve" to be re-employed and in fact they couldn't be because then anyone the new employer had sacked for kicking someone in the head would have very strong grounds for a case of unfair dismissal...hmmm how does that work then?
Are you sure you don't mean, "Since he is employed by Hull KR he should be sacked, otherwise it wouldn't make the slightest difference to me"
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More the fact he has committed gross misconduct whilst employed by HKR and brought the name of his club into disrepute.
And yes i did think the same for Raynor & Cooke, Bailey, Walker, Pryce , Reardon & Feka
Geez that is a long list and im sure ive missed some and thats only from 3 seasons
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| Quote ="Hutchie"More the fact he has committed gross misconduct whilst employed by HKR and brought the name of his club into disrepute.
And yes i did think the same for Raynor & Cooke, Bailey, Walker, Pryce , Reardon & Feka
Geez that is a long list and im sure ive missed some and thats only from 3 seasons'"
It certainly is a long list and serves to highlight the difficulties surrounding this particular case as well as the two faced nature of many of the posts on this thread.
I think the club should impose some sort of punishment, however I think sacking him would limit the opportunities for him to atone for his sins. Some good could come out of this situation but I think most could be gained by him being retained within the club, not outside of it.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Oh dear, here comes Mr Bandito and his inane outlook.
WFT are you talking about - out of my depth? out of my depth for what - for stating what that particular situation [uindicates[/u? - And even taking away the sacking of the lad, Castleford's track record validates they not a club high on morales.
You're outlook on things is bizzare with your ramblings as a "I know RL celebrities type bollox" as if it's some kind of badge. Infact, I've spoken to a rugby league "celebrity" who has been upset by your inane ramblings on this site.
Oh and you really need to let go of your bitterness towards Rovers, it will only eat you away...'"
Agreed!!
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| its a long list, but just a question was there cctv evidence of any of the brutalities?
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| Quote ="chappy 72"its a long list, but just a question was there cctv evidence of any of the brutalities?'"
If there was none does that mean they were any less brutal?
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"It certainly is a long list and serves to highlight the difficulties surrounding this particular case as well as the two faced nature of many of the posts on this thread.
I think the club should impose some sort of punishment, however I think sacking him would limit the opportunities for him to atone for his sins. Some good could come out of this situation but I think most could be gained by him being retained within the club, not outside of it.'"
Sack him and you basically put him on the market for other clubs to pick up, the RFl have to act at some point and if they do it now thye have to be consistant when Pryce/Reardon get theres. A line in the sand has to start somewhere
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"If there was none does that mean they were any less brutal?'"
obviously not, i have never seen any of the other attacks but this has been on tv ect and couldnt believe my eyes thats all,all the other lads in fights,attacks whatever you want to call them havent been in the public eye has such just newspapers and speculation on the forums etc
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| Bandito, during or after your 3 months did your employer (if employed) sack you?
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| i think the problem is that even if the RFL say "right do anything like this and your band" will only make a rod for their back, because when players/people do this sort of thing its not for fun its coz they lose their head. do you really thing ben was thinking about his job when he did this?
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| Quote ="red al"pathetic, how many games has he played since the incident. 1st class twit!'"
How many times had he been around town before he decided to play 'keep 'e uppies' with a blokes head?
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| We are all going around in circles now.
This thread will now be locked and no further ones allowed until the RFL or Hull KR take the next step in this matter.
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