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| Quote ="WELTON VILLAGER".
So guess you say everything if fine , eh ? . Have you ever had a good kicking from a thug ?'"
So what do you suggest, some sort of lynch mob or vigilante action?
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| Quote ="RoversTrace"1. Big difference in both, if you know the full story.
2. Nope, said he had been punished, never condoned what he did. The injuries reported in the HDM I understand are a slight over exageration. never defined it as 'an everday playground scuffle' what I said was my daughter said she had seen as bad at school - they don't have playgrounds at secondary by the way.
3. I don't have a problem with the sanctions imposed by the club, but he has now been punished by the courts and by the club, there is no need for the rugby league to get involved or they could be setting a big precedent.
Are you going to disect everyone else's posts in the same way?'"
A bit odd that you've been an outspoken advocate of no further action being brought against Cockayne and the next thing you know you're cheerleading the club's, er, further action against Cockayne. Added to your very different opinions on 2 players who some might say have comparably shabby characters and it all looks a bit contradictory.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A bit odd that you've been an outspoken advocate of no further action being brought against Cockayne and the next thing you know you're cheerleading the club's, er, further action against Cockayne. Added to your very different opinions on 2 players who some might say have comparably shabby characters and it all looks a bit contradictory.
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| He should be in Jail anyway and then Rovers wouldn't have had to impose any further punishment of this sort. As it is I think they have got it just about right when you compare it to other clubs actions against players with similar convictions.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"He should be in Jail anyway'"
Go on stamp your feet.
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| Quote ="WELTON VILLAGER".
So guess you say everything if fine , eh ? . Have you ever had a good kicking from a thug ?'"
Im aware of a doorman from Blackpool, someone tried to gouge his eyes out whilst being racially abused.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A bit odd that you've been an outspoken advocate of no further action being brought against Cockayne and the next thing you know you're cheerleading the club's, er, further action against Cockayne. Added to your very different opinions on 2 players who some might say have comparably shabby characters and it all looks a bit contradictory.
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Go ahead and think what you like, you will anyway
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| He should have been sacked. We can't have Rugby League players doing that. Same goes for my club, I for one hope that Reardon's contract is ripped to pieces over the coming weeks.
Family sport indeed.
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| Quote ="Lefty"He should have been sacked. We can't have Rugby League players doing that. Same goes for my club, I for one hope that Reardon's contract is ripped to pieces over the coming weeks.
Family sport indeed.'"
Ahh but Reardon's a bag of brown stuff. I'd also want rid.
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| Quote ="Lefty"He should have been sacked. We can't have Rugby League players doing that. Same goes for my club, I for one hope that Reardon's contract is ripped to pieces over the coming weeks.
Family sport indeed.'"
My understanding is that is very likely to happen.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Go on stamp your feet.
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Why would I do that?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Why would I do that?
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Cos Kiel Thompsons head is there and it's the done thing???
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"7 broken ribs
Broken nose
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Reported in the HDM. If these are untrue, I'd imagine Cockayne's legal team are on it.'"
This is something i did pick up on in a previous post, according to the judge, one of the reasons Ben was sprared jail was because of the fact that the victim suffered no serious injuries.
If that was the case then could the HDM have a case to answer for libel, just a thought!!.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"You have to take your hats off for this. They could of easily just handed him a fine or similar.
Lets hope ALL other clubs follow suit for the future. Yes that does include my own who should of done in the past
Im sure there is only a certain amount of hours per week that you can do CS though too, i think it may be 20. Maybe some of your fans can confirm this
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Generally it is one day per week (in Humberside), where will he be doing his CS?
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| Quote ="Seventies red"This is something i did pick up on in a previous post, according to the judge, one of the reasons Ben was sprared jail was because of the fact that the victim suffered no serious injuries.
If that was the case then could the HDM could have a case to answer for libel, just a thought!!.'"
Seems a tad strange that the only place to mention these injuries is the HDM I must say.Saying that it must of been in the news somewhere first for them to of picked up on it
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Cos Kiel Thompsons head is there and it's the done thing???'"
Did Kiel also face prosecution for knocking someone out cold (as he said in his HDM interview)
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| Quote ="hullkr-kev"Did Kiel also face prosecution for knocking someone out cold (as he said in his HDM interview)'"
Was he prosecuted?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"You have to take your hats off for this. They could of easily just handed him a fine or similar.
Lets hope ALL other clubs follow suit for the future. Yes that does include my own who should of done in the past
Im sure there is only a certain amount of hours per week that you can do CS though too, i think it may be 20. Maybe some of your fans can confirm this
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I'm sure if you stand outside durty nellies you will shocked to find the number on CS in FC shirts, so why not ask them
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Was he prosecuted?'"
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| Quote ="FLAG EDGE TOUCH"I guess it's how an individual defines "Community Service" - cleaning up chewing gum etc. is where you might see an immediate (albeit temporary) benefit, educating the young and impressionable may well have a longer lasting benefit to the community....that, however, is a point that can be debated forever and a day I guess...'"
My arguemtn on this is that Pro rugby players should have to do that educational bit as part of there job in the first place.
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| But the other argument is that cleaning chewing gum off the streets is a multi-million pound business, a guy from Hull has just won the contract to clean the streets of Warrington and Liverpool for a few million pounds so to have CS participants doing it would be taking jobs off people like myself that have been laid off and cant find work.
Ben has a job why give him another one that someone would be glad to be paid to do??
Sending Ben into schools/colleges/youth centres...etc to teach them of how close he came to losing his career and how awful prison really was can only be done by these types of people and not people like myself who've never experienced it and are not top sporting stars.
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| Would they have taken the same action if one of your academy/u 21's had behaved in the same way? Doubt it very much.Rovers have punished him more than i expected but still not hard enough IMO.....and before you start ranting yes Raynor and all the others who have pushed themselves a step too far should have been shown the door at FC too.
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| Quote ="CHUCKY"Would they have taken the same action if one of your academy/u 21's had behaved in the same way? Doubt it very much.Rovers have punished him more than i expected but still not hard enough IMO.....and before you start ranting yes Raynor and all the others who have pushed themselves a step too far should have been shown the door at FC too.'"
So long as all players are given the same treatment I dont have a problem, Ben deserved jail, but he didn't get it and its not RL's place to start levelling sentencing up to appease public opinion. I would have expected FC, Wigan and the others to have banned their players for a period to show there disgust as well, but after any ban the offenders concerned have a right to earn a living and a right to be given a chance at redemption.
No exceptions based on first team, reserves or even GB status.
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| Another reason they should expand Hull prison around East Hull?
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