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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Talk about stating the bleedin' obvious.
A big part of him coming to Hull will be the role he plays bringing on the likes of Turner, Tansey, Washbrook and freeing up Richard Horne. The best thing I've read so far from his book is the slating he gave Noble for not doing enough ball skills in training and not establishing a gameplan 4 days before a game. Considering we appear not to do any gameplanning whatsoever, I'm hoping he uses his influence to demand we start doing so. Given his career to date, I think it's fair to say there are interesting times ahead at FC. Could be a huge success or a massive disaster, but doubt it will be quiet mediocrity.'"
This really irritates me this thing about "freeing up Richard Horne". He's a class runner of the ball but he ain't no off-half and never has been. Even supporting half-backs/off-halfs (or whatever you want to call them) have to have more to their game than just a running game.
Last season it only took Cooke or Dobson to have a decent game and we'd win comfortably.
The fact of the matter is that Richard Horne has been nothing since Paul Cooke moved East IMO same goes for Yeaman (AKA Sid the Snail)..
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| Quote ="General Zod."This really irritates me this thing about "freeing up Richard Horne". He's a class runner of the ball but he ain't no off-half and never has been. Even supporting half-backs/off-halfs (or whatever you want to call them) have to have more to their game than just a running game.
Last season it only took Cooke or Dobson to have a decent game and we'd win comfortably.
The fact of the matter is that Richard Horne has been nothing since Paul Cooke moved East IMO same goes for Yeaman (AKA Sid the Snail)..'"
Spot on Zod
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| Quote ="General Zod."This really irritates me this thing about "freeing up Richard Horne". He's a class runner of the ball but he ain't no off-half and never has been. Even supporting half-backs/off-halfs (or whatever you want to call them) have to have more to their game than just a running game.
Last season it only took Cooke or Dobson to have a decent game and we'd win comfortably.
The fact of the matter is that Richard Horne has been nothing since Paul Cooke moved East IMO same goes for Yeaman (AKA Sid the Snail)..'"
cooke and dobson didn't have many decent games between them then?
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| Quote ="General Zod."This really irritates me this thing about "freeing up Richard Horne". He's a class runner of the ball but he ain't no off-half and never has been. Even supporting half-backs/off-halfs (or whatever you want to call them) have to have more to their game than just a running game.
Last season it only took Cooke or Dobson to have a decent game and we'd win comfortably.
The fact of the matter is that Richard Horne has been nothing since Paul Cooke moved East IMO same goes for Yeaman (AKA Sid the Snail)..'"
He has been nothing..
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"cooke and dobson didn't have many decent games between them then?'"
Won far more than we lost - unlike your team of losers...
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| Quote ="barton baird"Think he is cheeky myself.'"
Quote ="Red Red - Tommo"Hi can you please change my username to either:
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My wife joined me as Tommo-John, thankyou in anticipation for your help .
kind regards
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What were the alternative names you requested before your edit, Tommo-John?
And are you pleased with Admin's final decision of Red Red - Tommo?
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"He has been nothing..'"
Stand-off half for a top-four team - the guy is a class player and the best passer of a ball in the Super League (if anyone disagrees with this point then please tell me who is better).
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| Quote ="General Zod."Stand-off half for a top-four team - the guy is a class player and the best passer of a ball in the Super League (if anyone disagrees with this point then please tell me who is better).'"
Kevin Sinfield springs to mind, also a few more are considered better imo due to consistency which has what has made Cooke become very average..
On your top-four team theory are you suggesting Scott Wheeldon is one of the best props
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| Quote ="General Zod."This really irritates me this thing about "freeing up Richard Horne". He's a class runner of the ball but he ain't no off-half and never has been. Even supporting half-backs/off-halfs (or whatever you want to call them) have to have more to their game than just a running game.
Last season it only took Cooke or Dobson to have a decent game and we'd win comfortably.
The fact of the matter is that Richard Horne has been nothing since Paul Cooke moved East IMO same goes for Yeaman (AKA Sid the Snail)..'"
Tend to agree with some of that. Horne never really played in 2008 and it's fair to say was anonymous for most of 2009 bar the first few games. In fairness he's been recovering from a careerthreatening injury and diabetes, but nonetheless needs to step it up big time next year. Not really seen him play with a genuine 7 though, to form a partnership like Maguire does with Burrow, or Pryce with Long, or to a lesser extent Brown with Robinson. Might work, might not, but I think he's more likely to just do the running bit next to Long than was possible with Thorman.
Yeaman's pretty good at running a good line and hitting a gap. And putting in a trademark big hit or 2 per game. That's it. Creates nothing for his winger, sadly. One of those players that Agar will never drop, though, even though Briscoe, Hall and Turner should be challenging him.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Stand-off half for a top-four team - the guy is a class player and the best passer of a ball in the Super League (if anyone disagrees with this point then please tell me who is better).'"
Thought you said he was deadwood that should be disposed of immediately and replaced with Chas I'Anson?
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Kevin Sinfield springs to mind, also a few more are considered better imo due to consistency which has what has made Cooke become very average..
On your top-four team theory are you suggesting Scott Wheeldon is one of the best props
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Sinfield is a decent passer granted - but he ain't in Cooke's class and never will be in this respect.
As far as Wheeldon goes, the kid has been a true professional and I expect him to progress year on year under the guidance of our excellent coaching set-up.
FC's poor coaching was something that stiffled his development and I understand that FC's poor coaching was part of the reason that Scott had to wait for his chance at the start of the season but once he got his chance he went from strength to strength during the season and I personally hope he signs a contract extention.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Sinfield is a decent passer granted - but he ain't in Cooke's class and never will be in this respect.
As far as Wheeldon goes, the kid has been a true professional and I expect him to progress year on year under the guidance of our excellent coaching set-up.
FC's poor coaching was something that stiffled his development and I understand that FC's poor coaching was part of the reason that Scott had to wait for his chance at the start of the season but once he got his chance he went from strength to strength during the season and I personally hope he signs a contract extention.'"
Were you delighted when Morgan offered Mills and Fisher long extensions?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Thought you said he was deadwood that should be disposed of immediately and replaced with Chas I'Anson?
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I did and I was 100% right to do so at that particular point in time.
Since then, he's got his act together and humiliated your team on a regular basis so on that note I'll continually remind you that your club has disintegrated since his departure as a "contract expired player".
Paul Cooke is a top-class, quality player and all FC fans really need to accept the fact it's all done and dusted - there will be no legal action against Paul Cooke - WHAT SO EVER - Isn't that right Mr Rule...
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"He has been nothing..'"
Continues to tear you apart in the derbys
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| Quote ="General Zod."Stand-off half for a top-four team - the guy is a class player and the best passer of a ball in the Super League (if anyone disagrees with this point then please tell me who is better).'"
The last four or five international coaches seem to disagree with you.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The last four or five international coaches seem to disagree with you.'"
I don't think so. They just opted to go for a losing formula of picking runners at half-backs instead of picking passers/kickers.
Even some of the Aussie fans who tuned in to watch Rovers vs Wire CCQF said Cooke's passing was as good as the stuff they've seen from Brad Fitler.
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| Back on topic : Sean Long was misrepresented
Fortunately its down in black and white. Six months ban anyone
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| Quote ="General Zod."I'll have to get a link to the thread.
Paul Cooke's passing is world class and certainly better than any of the donkeys in your team.'"
Surely you mean Paul Cookes passing from right to left is class?
Makes you wonder why you hardly use him then.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Surely you mean Paul Cookes passing from right to left is class?
Makes you wonder why you hardly use him then.'"
He's thrown several cut-out passes from left to right also.
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| Quote ="General Zod."He's thrown several cut-out passes from left to right also.'"
Ask Paul Cooke if he has a weaker passing game from one particular side.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Ask Paul Cooke if he has a weaker passing game from one particular side.
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Of he will have - it's natural that he will have.
But having said that, his weaker passing from that side is still way, way better than Richard Horne's on his best side.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Of he will have - it's natural that he will have.
But having said that, his weaker passing from that side is still way, way better than Richard Horne's on his best side.'"
I agree Rich Hornes strength is not the long passing game however a fully fit Rich Hornes running game blast Cookies out of the water.
Its why they were so successful as a half pairing dont you agree?
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