All I'm saying is that you're wrong in what you've stated, like Kath H, I don't have to comment any further.

Look i think most of us agree the RFL has got to set a bench mark here, and start imposing bans for such things, it was on tv for gods sake it does so much damage to our game we have to be seen to be dealing with it .

Thats my point, If these 2 players were in Australia, Both would be sacked and banned from playing in the league, The RFL should do the same IMO

I'm on Rovers' side on this one - I'm guessing they were ignorant of the seriousness of the offence.

If I'm wrong, then fine - but how do Rovers justify their signing of the thug if they were fully aware of the situation?

Your comments, Churchill, are intriguing. Were the RFL aware that Rovers were aware??





And now you have shed new light on this - SHOULD they be aware? Perhaps you need to drop the RFL an e-mail. In the interest of justice, of course

Oh well, lets hang him shall we, its ok for him to batter someone but please don't get caught on telly

Go on then, fill your boots.

Cockayne's court case, in which he pleaded guilty, was concluded in July last year. Rovers subsequently offered him a 3 year deal which he signed in August. Sentencing was due to be made the same week he signed his new deal, but the whole peverting the course of justice extravaganza then kicked off. I would think it unlikely that Rovers would have signed him without knowing the full details of the case which had already been concluded (bar the sentencing aspect), particularly with a solicitor as chairman.

No, this one's solely yours, Churchy. I have a rather large spade you can borrow, though.

Think Barista just sorted you out, wormy.

EH ! were did i say that . This is to do with our sport RL you know the one we pass the ball to eachother and we pride ourselves that its a family sport . Not a place for THUGS .

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In that case, why the squealing from Rovers only now? Does Hudge need a spade, too?

Check my posts, I have condemned him completely and if the club sack him he will have got what he deserves, what I have seen as a common run through these discussions is people are more concerned that it was caught on CCTV, which does NOT make it any less or more serious. The only thing it proves is what he did is visible, while other players who have been convicted of assault are deemed less culpable because it was not there on the internet for all to see.

He has been convicted and sentenced in a court of law, now it seems the court of public opinion needs its pound of flesh as well, I jsy think we should leave it to the club and RFL to sort out. I agree a thug is a thug and we have had plenty of them in our sport, some can count themselves lucky there was no CCTV.

Rovers will surely have planned for the 2 eventualities, prison or no prison. I'm thinking they were probably going for the usual "we'll deal with it in-house" bollox but the RFL have got involved and/or the level of bad publicity has meant they're having to go for a tougher approach.

So long as its not for just this case, they have my backing. I hope whatever Cockayne gets certain others get as well, after all we should be ridding our game of all THUG'S, not just THUG.

Which is what i have said in my posts too . Because its on cctv it just brings it into the front room if you like, and then people take notice hence why we agree the RFL should act .

Indeed she has. Throws a whole new light on the Rovers' assessment of the situation and how they morally guage their signings?

IF this is true - Rovers should have been having these meetings two years ago as the sentencing of the crime is irrelevant to the fact that they knew the man to be guilty already AND the enormity of what he did.

IF this is true, Rovers are also guilty of double standards in that they were happy to continue to field Cockayne knowing this but then cry outrage and disciplinaries once the gravity of the offence is publicly acknowledged with a sentence and the CCTV release?

I was happy to assume the opposite, but if true - shame on Rovers, and shame on Churchill for using this as a gleeful opportunity to trump me regardless of the can of worms it opens.

as did Hull with Raynor and no doubt will saints and Wire if those two are fit. All the clubs have double standards in that case.

You worry too much, must have been all those hours standing in pi$$. Take care.

The difference is Raynor did not plead guilty and so Hull had to await the verdict before thay could address the situation internally.

Cackayne's case is the opposite. He pleaded guilty at the time but it is now alleged that Rovers - despite this continued to back him despite knowing the full extent of the atrocity.

It is only now that the case is escalating to be so high profile and Joe Public is expressing outrage that Rovers deem it necessary to only now hold "future in the balance" talks.

After protecting the thug's skin for so long, they now rapidly move on to protecting their own. Oh dear.

Wormy, seriously, those knitting needles of yours are glistening away as per usual. You are wrong on so many different things its hard to know where to start. How about this one:

You claimed: Ben had shown no remorse, whilst the 'victim' claims in todays daily rag, that he has seen Ben since the incident and he was very apologetic (although obviously he wont accept it)

You appear to be someone who believes what is written on the internet as fact, a very sad state to be in. For instance, the stories online claim there to be 5 people involved, yet the video shows 2?? There again, the video hasnt been shown to us in full, just an edited version (bad as it is)

Im all for players being dealt with by the RFL, as someone else has mentioned, so long as they are ALL dealt with. Unfortunately there have been several players bringing bad media attention to the sport, Gareth Raynor, Paul Cooke (which incidentally your own club tried desperately to keep in-house) Leon Pryce for the glassing incident, Ryan Bailey, Chev Walker. It appears that several people are jumping on the 'Its HKR' burn um campaign, yet weren't so vocal when players from their own team were involved.

Ben has not publicly shown any regret apart from claiming prison was "Hell".

As for the rest - I think you must be responding to someone elses posts?

Clickety click. (I just need a measurement for your left ear - your hat's nearly finished. Please pm me with the length so I can get the flaps right. You did say you wanted the string to tie under your chin, now, that was right wasn't it?)

Probably get some stick on here for saying this but both players should be banned for life IMO!! The RFL should take it out of KRs hands. they could have killed that fella but for that woman interveening.....both should be serving time but such is the woeful criminal justice system in this country.

THe RFL need to send out a strong message though....neither of these two have a place on a rugby field and should serve lifetime Rugby bans to send out a message to them, but also to act as a deterant to all other players

And one punch could also have been enough to kill a certain bus driver
I dont hear you calling for Feka to be banned

A punch is not a kick though is it