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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Because he brought it up saying he wondered what would happen if you played outside the rules and needed setting straight.'"
But you are not bothered
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| Quote ="roversmad"But you are not bothered
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Mate, don't rise to Matty. He always spouts nonsense and for a "die hard" hull fan, he spends plenty of time on the rovers forum. And he thinks the guy in his avatar is Shaun Barrymore lol Ain't that right matty lol
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| The main point being that there are quota and rules on overseas players (Not that any of us understand them) and if we had too many i pretty sure the rfl would have picked up on it (or been told by someone to check it).
My guess is that he's havin a dig at vella for havin a maltese passport even tho he has australian caps. Hence us havin an extra ozzy. Hasn't one of their signings got a portuguese passport so no visa or quota or summat, double standards me thinks
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Like having more overseas players than the rest?
'" So which rules did we break and how much were we fined?
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"The rules state you're only allowed a certain amount of overseas players, an amount you've gone over.'" Except if you have a dispensation.
This seems to be the bit you are struggling with.
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Quote ="Roverswall"Except if you have a dispensation.
This seems to be the bit you are struggling with.'"
The rules for everyone else is a fixed number of imports.
You're not playing to those rules, you have as you say dispensation
You're threfore playing outside the rules of everyone else.
Which bit are you sruggling with?
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Quote ="Roverswall"Except if you have a dispensation.
This seems to be the bit you are struggling with.'"
The rules for everyone else is a fixed number of imports.
You're not playing to those rules, you have as you say dispensation
You're threfore playing outside the rules of everyone else.
Which bit are you sruggling with?
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Quote ="Matty_HullFC"The rules for everyone else is a fixed number of imports.
You're not playing to those rules, you have as you say dispensation
You're threfore playing outside the rules of everyone else.
Which bit are you sruggling with?'"
I think you'll find the dispensation RULES apply to ALL clubs, not just hull kr.
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Quote ="Matty_HullFC"The rules for everyone else is a fixed number of imports.
You're not playing to those rules, you have as you say dispensation
You're threfore playing outside the rules of everyone else.
Which bit are you sruggling with?'"
I think you'll find the dispensation RULES apply to ALL clubs, not just hull kr.
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"I think you'll find the dispensation RULES apply to ALL clubs, not just hull kr.'"
That is a load of rubbish and you know it.
If it was the case why are clubs not using them to their advantage?
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"That is a load of rubbish and you know it.
If it was the case why are clubs not using them to their advantage?'"
They are.
As far as I'm aware, the only dispensation that applied exclusively to Rovers was the one covering Lovegrove. The 'Gene Exemption' is available to everyone who qualifies.
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| Quote ="Kosh"They are.
As far as I'm aware, the only dispensation that applied exclusively to Rovers was the one covering Lovegrove. The 'Gene Exemption' is available to everyone who qualifies.'"
I was talking about Lovegrove.
Why he gets special treatment I do not know, he brings nothing to SL that Ryan Esders or Mike Burnett wouldn't yet he has a stupid accent so gets 'Dispensation'
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| Quote ="Kosh"They are.
As far as I'm aware, the only dispensation that applied exclusively to Rovers was the one covering Lovegrove. The 'Gene Exemption' is available to everyone who qualifies.'"
Wrap it up how you want, they have more overseas players than everyone else and are therefore playing outside the rules of everyone else.
This in their THIRD season of SL
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Wrap it up how you want, they have more overseas players than everyone else and are therefore playing outside the rules of everyone else.
This in their THIRD season of SL'"
You really are desperate
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Wrap it up how you want, they have more overseas players than everyone else and are therefore playing outside the rules of everyone else.
This in their THIRD season of SL'"
Every other club has the same opportunity to sign overseas players as Rovers, with the exception of Lovegrove. That's the only 'dodgy' dispensation IMO.
Although the case of Stanley Gene kicked off the non-fed to fed exemption, it was not done as a favour to Rovers. It was done because it highlighted a possible case for legal action by players who had been here before the overseas quota rules were introduced and could argue that it was a restraint of trade.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Do you have more overseas players than other teams are allowed?'"
Have Rovers been fined or docked points for playing these players 'outside the rules' ??
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Do you have more overseas players than other teams are allowed?'"
They have exactly the same number of overseas players as everyone else according to the definitions in use by the RFL.
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We are within the rules and are doing quite well thank you. I'm touched by all this concern for our well-being though.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Every other club has the same opportunity to sign overseas players as Rovers, with the exception of Lovegrove. That's the only 'dodgy' dispensation IMO.'"
My point is that, with the Lovegrove signing, they are playing outside the rules of every other club, as I can't think of any club who have had a similar ruling.
Jeez it was only a response to someone trolling my trolling
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Have Rovers been fined or docked points for playing these players 'outside the rules' ??'"
Back to this again?Sso are you saying that the sign of whether you've done something wrong/right is being fined/docked points? Are you saying everything that every club has done in the past outside the rules has resulted in a fine/a docking of points?
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| So, are you saying that Rovers have more overseas players than any other club?
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"So, are you saying that Rovers have more overseas players than any other club?'"
No, I'm saying that in response to this comment:
Quote ="clockwork mouse"Don't know what could have happened if we'd played outside the rules of competitions
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You do play outside the rules of the competition of Super League by having more overseas players than the rules allow.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"No, I'm saying that in response to this comment:
You do play outside the rules of the competition of Super League by having more overseas players than the rules allow.'"
Perhaps we can agree that Rhys Lovegrove's presence in our squad, means that Rovers are currently taking advantage of an exception that has been made in the rules, rather than breaking them?
It isn't even a particular exceptional exception - other clubs have (I'm thinking of one in particular here ) and in a couple of cases still maybe do (Catalans? Celtic?) play(ed) 'outside of the rules'.
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| ....post drift
We havent gone over enough said.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Perhaps we can agree that Rhys Lovegrove's presence in our squad, means that Rovers are currently taking advantage of an exception that has been made in the rules, rather than breaking them?
It isn't even a particular exceptional exception - other clubs have (I'm thinking of one in particular here
) and in a couple of cases still maybe do (Catalans? Celtic?) play(ed) 'outside of the rules'.'"
Good post, I'm just saying you're playing outside the rules of the league that's all
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