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| Quote ="Sheldon"whats the capacity at sheffield? how much where the tickets?
and who much where the tickets for elton john, bryan adams and the who at the kc?'"
Sheff arena, with standing on floor 15000ish. tickets £30. Elton was about £40,50, the others I dont know.
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| Its not just the capacity and price though, its the publicity and advertising thats important. Something that the KC are not famous for.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Sheff arena, with standing on floor 15000ish. tickets £30. Elton was about £40,50, the others I dont know.'"
is the problem that the kc size makes it to expensive?
i'm only guessing here but say it costs 500k to get the staduim ready, the stage and additional flooring/seating, could a band get a better deal at a venue where they could fit more people in or where the stage is already set up?
asking oasis or coldplay to play the kc would be pointless when they could double/treble there revenue at wembley.
and i dont think the killers would sell out the kc at 50 quid a pop.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"is the problem that the kc size makes it to expensive?
i'm only guessing here but say it costs 500k
to get the staduim ready, the stage and additional flooring/seating, could a band get a better deal at a venue where they could fit more people in or where the stage is already set up?
asking oasis or coldplay to play the kc would be pointless when they could double/treble there revenue at wembley.
and i dont think the killers would sell out the kc at 50 quid a pop.'"
Put a stage up,some lights and boarding on the pitch which in summer wouldnt be beat up would not cost that! dont forget the stadium would benefit from drink and food bought and any carparking. If the Killers sold 20000 tickets at £30 they would be quids in.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Put a stage up,some lights and boarding on the pitch which in summer wouldnt be beat up would not cost that! dont forget the stadium would benefit from drink and food bought and any carparking. If the Killers sold 20000 tickets at £30 they would be quids in.'"
as i say it wa a guess, i haven't a clue on what it costs to put a concert on.
which band didn't make a profit? how much where their tickets and what was the attendence?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Its not just the capacity and price though, its the publicity and advertising thats important. Something that the KC are not famous for.'"
Aye, something the SMC have never been good at. A way to justify their future neglect of their obligations to the people of Hull in bringing major sporting and non-sporting events to the city?
Last concert The Who May 2007, Duffen arrives one month later, no coindidence, he simply died away what Pearson had started to trail off.
This is NOT Hull City's stadium, but the more people relax and ignore, the more Hull the City is losing it
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Duffen's just being lazy because it's a bit complicated to arrange and is not his priority. He's now compounded this by being abusive to the rugby league community in the city. If he's accountable to the council on the basis of effectively being caretaker of their asset maybe we should all write eloquent letters to the council chairman. I and I suspect many others do feel insulted by Duffen's sweeping generalisation. I feel that some compensation may be in order. Does anyone know a personal injury lawyer?
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Not just RL Supporters in this City , but RL Supporters in General Quote 'I did not think Rugby League Supporters could write' Hello John Prescott have a word mate
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"Not just RL Supporters in this City , but RL Supporters in General Quote 'I did not think Rugby League Supporters could write' Hello John Prescott have a word mate'"
I couldn't believe some of the phone calls to Humberside. You need to lighten up FFS. It was a flippant throw away remark which maybe on reflection he should not have made. One guy said "there are 25000 RL supporters in this City" which makes me think that Maths is probably not the strong point never mind letter writing!
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| Quote ="davey37"It's interesting that ALL rugby fans on here, both Rovers & FC, discuss the matter in hand for what it is but Vince turns it into his own personal attack on Richo and Kath
We are not bothered that our board don't have a say in the running of the Council Owned Stadium that is run Independently by the SMC (supposedly)
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I hardly call it a "personal attack" but if that's what you think then that's uptp you. One thing for sure though...it's true!!! If you're not bothered about your board not having a say then shut up and leave it to a proper chairman!
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| Quote ="rover49"Who was the last one ?
If they booked acts who were worth seeing people would come from anywhere, I saw Metallica last night and there were coaches from Scotland and Exeter next to ours, the same happened a few years back when I saw Springsteen in London, people came from all parts of the UK, can the same be said for Neil Diamond.'"
I was gonna go but didn't in the end...
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"I couldn't believe some of the phone calls to Humberside. You need to lighten up FFS. It was a flippant throw away remark which maybe [size=150on reflection he should not have made[/size. One guy said "there are 25000 RL supporters in this City" which makes me think that Maths is probably not the strong point never mind letter writing!
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You have contradicted yourself Vince.
The examples of Glenn Hoddle and Gerald Ratner making flippant remarks in the recent past should show anyone with an ounce of intelligence that if you are going to be broadcast on live radio you have to be careful what you say.
Whichever way you want to look at it, he has denied the people of Hull an international event.
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"I couldn't believe some of the phone calls to Humberside. You need to lighten up FFS. It was a flippant throw away remark which maybe on reflection he should not have made. '"
first sensible thing youve ever said!
It was a tongue in cheek jokey remark.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"You have contradicted yourself Vince.
The examples of Glenn Hoddle and Gerald Ratner making flippant remarks in the recent past should show anyone with an ounce of intelligence that if you are going to be broadcast on live radio you have to be careful what you say.
Whichever way you want to look at it, he has denied the people of Hull an international event.'"
Which is why I said "on reflection". What Duffen didn't know was how sensitive RL supporters can be! Let's face the facts here. He is chairman of a club which is in the greatest sporting league in the world and his thoughts will be on staying in it next season. The rewards are in the strasophere and he can be forgiven if in the middle of this he is asked if he can put a game on next season which may bring another of his business interests about £25k. I know where my priorities would lie. Why didn't the RL ask for the game to be on a Sunday or Friday night like all other fixtures?
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| In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!'"
Wigan?
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!'"
At this moment in time there are NO fixtures scheduled to be played at the KC on any of the weekends the RFL requested. It is complete nonsense to suggest that nothing could be fixed up for the GB game. Let the FL or PL work around the RL fixture not the other way round.
Hull only have one home fixture in August and one in September, granted they may make the play-offs but they will probably not have more than one home game if any.
Its all a load of bollox from Duffen and like SB said .... Wigan??
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"The Killers would. Sold out sheff arena in hours. Kings of Leon would too. Good uni student bands. What about Pink? touring this year, I managed to get tickets due to advance booking privelage. Cant get VIP tickets now and the concert isnt while October!'"
I have booked to see her in Rotterdam in December as couldnt get decent priced tickets in the UK
I agree with the acts being poor, Killers would be awesome, even take that i think could get 20k
The SMC are not looking big enough in regards to the acts they get
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!'"
hasnt the GF been brough forward a week and it will be on fairs opening weekend ??
Quote Hull FairHull Fair
Hull Fair 2009 will be held on the Walton Street site from Friday 9 to Saturday 17 October (excluding Sunday 11 October).'"
Quote # engage Super League Grand Final
Saturday 10th October 2009'"
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| Quote ="Hutchie"hasnt the GF been brough forward a week and it will be on fairs opening weekend ??'"
All our home games will have to be played away then. Nice one vince!
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!'"
Its got nothing to do with HUll FC numbnut, its about RL in general. What part of this entire event is escaping you?
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Its got nothing to do with HUll FC numbnut, its about RL in general. What part of this entire event is escaping you?'"
Sort of answered your own question there chief
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"Which is why I said "on reflection". What Duffen didn't know was how sensitive RL supporters can be!
Let's face the facts here. He is chairman of a club which is in the greatest sporting league in the world and his thoughts will be on staying in it next season. The rewards are in the strasophere and he can be forgiven if in the middle of this he is asked if he can put a game on next season which may bring another of his business interests about £25k. I know where my priorities would lie. Why didn't the RL ask for the game to be on a Sunday or Friday night like all other fixtures?'"
What, like the GF, CC final and other internationals? Or upwards of 40 SL games which will be played on a Saturday.
If he cannot perform his duties as head of the SMC objectively for its owners he should step down.
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"In todays HDM Duffen gives us the real reason being that he told the RL he could NOT ask the FL if he could have an away game on the date requested until March which is Sunday. If, for whatever reason they took that as a refusal that is upto them but he does point out that City will be playing a lot of consecutive away games to accomodate Hull SL's fixtures during the Fair.
I think you should all apologise!'"
For what, being denied the chance to see two countries competing?
So, where the reasons you were defending prior to todays HDM merely another throw away comment until he wanted to come up with another poor excuse.
Wigan, Huddersfield and Doncaster appear able to accomodate these fixtures prior to Duffens March deadline.
He could get more credibility by simply stating he would rather it was City's stadium and he wanted it solely for football. This is wht he is implying.
Fortunately for the public of Hull, that will not happen (well not in the next 20 years anyway)
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For what, being denied the chance to see two countries competing?
So, where the reasons you were defending prior to todays HDM merely another throw away comment until he wanted to come up with another poor excuse.
Wigan, Huddersfield and Doncaster appear able to accomodate these fixtures prior to Duffens March deadline.
He could get more credibility by simply stating he would rather it was City's stadium and he wanted it solely for football. This is wht he is implying.
Fortunately for the public of Hull, that will not happen (well not in the next 20 years anyway)
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TBF i think City fans would be glad to have you out the KC and their chairman definitley would. With Rovers fans it wouldn't matter one iota either way.
So the only public of Hull who would be bothered about it would be you B&W's.
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| THE FACTS
- RL Needed a cast iron/set in stone commitment to a free weekend NOW
- A request to Football League can only be made in MARCH
- The confirmed fixture list comes out in JUNE with no guarantee of this free weekend being granted
Unless SMC took a huge gamble, the decision is correct.
Remember that TV Coverage, Hotel booking for supporters and Teams, Police cover, etc etc does not happen at the drop of a hat.
They take months of planning and months of notice.
If the ONLY time SMC would get a confirmed answer was June, and someone needed an answer - only a moron would agree to hosting the event.
This is good business sense, not one person on her does anything on a hope. You dont work unless you have a PO, you dont do anything till it has been approved, you dot every 'i' and cross every 't'.
Thats SMCs job, and thats exactly what they have done.
A decision like this cannot be made based on emotive factors. They are a Stadium Management company and they managed it correctly.
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