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| Quote ="Pickering Red"After the Widnes game today during which we displayed the sort of defensive intensity, resolve and spirit we will need again next week, here is my controversial starting 17 for Wembley:
Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Salter
Sio
Blair
Kelly
Walker
Lunt
Tilse
McCarthy
Larroyer
Puletua
Allgood
Green
Horne
Boudebza'"
Something like for me. Maybe Allgood to start and Tilse to come on to counter Leuluai.
Maybe Blair to second row and Chisolm at half back. If he is in the 17 that maybe to cover Albert if he isn't 100%.
We worry about Dixon under the bomb but Briscoe is atrocious. Kicking for Mantellato over him will bring us points.
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| I wouldn't have Puletua at Loose man though!
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| Jism shouldn't be anywhere near the seventeen even if Kelly doesn't make it.
From Pickering Red's team, I'd leave the backs as they are, and go Walker, Lunt, Tilse, Larroyer, Horne, McCarthy in the pack, interchange of Puletua, Boudebza, Allgood and Green.
It's essential that our kicking game is top notch, we need to be turning Leeds's pack at the end of every set and making them start in their ten/twenty.
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| Could anyone imagine Marsh Partnering Kelly in the halves? What a stage to announce yourself. Won't happen obviously. But he had a decent game in atrocious conditions today.
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| No, he's shown promise, but he's not an out and out obvious super star.
I would however put him on the bench over Chisholm if we have concerns that Kelly won't be able to play the eighty.
I'm concerned that we played Cockayne at full back today,I think we should have gone with Dixon (although we did switch him there in the second half), Dixon has to play on the vast space of Wembley.
Such a shame for us and Campese that he can't play.
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| Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Salter (I dont rate him but im not sure if playing Cockayne there would be better)
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Blair
Kelly/Chisholm (depends on Kelly being fit)
Walker
Lunt
Allgood
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Larroyer
McCarthy
Boudebza
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Puletua
Donaldson
Tough to pick the forwards!
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| Quote ="Captain Charisma"Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Salter (I dont rate him but im not sure if playing Cockayne there would be better) =#FF0040NO HE WOULDN'T
Sio
Blair =#FF00402nd row hopefully with Kelly & Chisholm in the halves
Kelly/Chisholm (depends on Kelly being fit)
Walker
Lunt
Allgood
Horne
Larroyer
McCarthy
Boudebza
Green
Puletua
Donaldson
Tough to pick the forwards!'"
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| I wouldn't put Chisholm in he hasn't done anything to be included to me
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| Why do so many people think the Wembley pitch is bigger than all the other pitches. Its actually 3 yards narrower than the KC stadium pitch.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I wouldn't put Chisholm in he hasn't done anything to be included to me'"
If Kelly doesn't play I think Chisholm is in, if Kelly plays, I dont think we'll see Chisholm play
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| Quote ="Captain Charisma"If Kelly doesn't play I think Chisholm is in, if Kelly plays, I dont think we'll see Chisholm play'"
I'm presuming kelly will play obviously
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| Quote ="Captain Charisma"If Kelly doesn't play I think Chisholm is in, if Kelly plays, I dont think we'll see Chisholm play'"
Which would mean Blair at 6, when we need him at LSR. Chisholm is quick, he might be just the answer to play alongside Kelly.
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| He's also rubbish and completely devoid of ideas.
Matty Marsh played him off the park today, apart from a break away interception against Leigh, he's shown and done nothing.
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| Chester's got headaches in a number of positions, but the first 2 names he would like on that team sheet are Campese and Kelly. Hopefully we can get one of them on the pitch come the weekend.
FB - Cockayne will likely get the nod after starting the last 2 games there. Would prefer Dixon for the pace and Xfactor he provides, but I can see the arguments for and against on both
Backline - Mantellato, Welham, Salter, Sio - Unless there is a last minute injury it picks itself
Halves - If Kelly is fit he must play, but if only partially fit we will likely need to either carry Marsh/Chisholm on the bench or play one from the start and shift Blair to the backrow. To be positive I assume fit so Kelly and Blair
Props - Walker, Puletua, Allgood and Tilse - Green to miss out for me, he maybe does a little more than Tilse with the ball, but defensively isn't as good. After watching Tilse in the Warrington and Wigan cup games he put his body on the line enough to deserve the last bench spot
Hooker - Lunt and Boudebza - John provides enough energy and impact to warrant a bench spot.
Backrow - Horne, Larroyer and McCarthy - Bench spot for Donaldson - Again like Boudebza I like the energy off the bench.
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| Pretty much disagree with all that but then again we don't pick the team
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| Quote ="Captain Charisma"Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Salter (I dont rate him but im not sure if playing Cockayne there would be better)
Sio
Blair
Kelly/Chisholm (depends on Kelly being fit)
Walker
Lunt
Allgood
Horne
Larroyer
McCarthy
Boudebza
Green
Puletua
Donaldson
Tough to pick the forwards!'"
Would go with cockayne at full back and leave boudebza out and put tilse on the bench.Donaldson would be good cover for lunt if needed,otherwise agree.Tough on dixon and boudebza but tough on whoever is left out.
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| If one person for me deserves a Wembley spot then it's French John, The guys worked so hard all year, First season in a fulltime enviroment and revelled in it. The guys only going to get better and has worked his socks off everytime he's been called upon.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Pretty much disagree with all that but then again we don't pick the team'"
I assume you not keen on Tilse and Donaldson, but to disagree with picking the majority of our starting 17 seems a little unfair.
Come on it's Wembley week cut me some slack!
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| Quote ="Easty"If one person for me deserves a Wembley spot then it's French John, The guys worked so hard all year, First season in a fulltime enviroment and revelled in it. The guys only going to get better and has worked his socks off everytime he's been called upon.'"
Totally agree and IMO we always seem a lot better going forward when he plays. He has to be in the 17 for me.
Dixon or Cockayne (60/40 on Dixon as has pace to burn and we will need it)
Sio
Salter
Welham
Mantallato
Blair
Kelly
Walker
Lunt
Puletua
Larroyer
Horne
Mccarthy
Bench
Boudebza
Allgood
Green
Tilse (If its the one who played against Wigan/Wire in the Cup) if not Donaldson
Glad its not down to me, but however plays they will have my support 100%
Cant wait, that excited even setting off Thursday night with the family!!!
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| there are some very hard decisions to make if we are as fit as we think we are.
Dixon / Cockayne
I thought Cockayne had a good game yesterday but for me Dixon is a match winner (and maybe loser) and if we are to win the cup we will have to set up to attack.
Boudebza / Lunt
Lunt is a quality and is a very good decision maker, Boudebza adds speed. I'd edge for Lunt but then that leaves
Boudebza / Cockayne on the bench
I'd got with BC, purely for his ability to cover an injury or two, especially if Kelly plays 80% and has to come off and then its a big shuffle.
If Kelly plays then Chisholm / Marsh / Blair to partner..
I think Chezzie will go with Blair but i personally prefer him in the pack and then go with Marsh at 6, he looked as good if not better than Chisholm yesterday.
The props is any 4 from about 8, TP is in, AW is in, I think Tilse will be in and then that leaves Green and Allgood for the other spot, can't call it myself.
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| Quote ="RoverAndOut"I assume you not keen on Tilse and Donaldson, but to disagree with picking the majority of our starting 17 seems a little unfair.
Come on it's Wembley week cut me some slack!
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No I think tilse should play
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| In my opinion Kelly has got to play even if he is not fully fit. It's a big risk but it's one worth taking as I believe you have a chance of winning only if he plays. I support Hull but have watched Rovers at home regularly and Kelly without doubt is a very special player and has been one of the best i've seen this season. His game went up a notch after Campese's injury as he had to take on more responsibility. Comparisons have been made with what happened to Gavin Miller against Cas all those years ago but you cannot compare like for like as back then you only had 2 substitutions, now with 10 interchanges you can cover him if he breaks down.
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| Quote ="Easty"If one person for me deserves a Wembley spot then it's French John, The guys worked so hard all year, First season in a fulltime enviroment and revelled in it. The guys only going to get better and has worked his socks off everytime he's been called upon.'"
Absolutely he should. I hope Chester thinks about the players who have never let the team down. I think he could revel in the atmosphere.
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| Well kelly was training today doing runs up and down the pitch looked ok to me
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Well kelly was training today doing runs up and down the pitch looked ok to me'"
I assume you are referring to the mechanics of his motion, rather than his "lovely" hair.
Either way, you're the man and this is good news.
Let's know tomorrow night if any lateral movements off his damaged knee have been observed.
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