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| Tbf, I think honest and discrete are both fine and Gentle was just being discrete. My only problem was the agent being neither.
On Hudgell, they did say they (he and RC) wouldn't bankroll Rovers alone - there's the wriggle room, I guess. There's other investment in the pipeline apparently. And a change of intentions - it can be debatable whether it represents a lie.
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"Didn't hear the interview but it seems Neil (and Rob?) have done another U-turn. IMO its great news for the club because Neil is literally the heartbeat of Rovers.
In many respects there are too many things coming to fruition at the club for him (and Rob) to walk away from, and if he had of done I believe he would have regretted it.'"
No surprise on the U turn now you've won a couple of games
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| Quote ="oggi the red" scum like Hudge and Crossland '"
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Im glad hes staying on. Hes red n white through and through. If certain fans of a certain team don't like him then that's there problem. He calls a spade a spade and a cabbage a cabbage. Brutally honest IMO
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And also calls Administration Administration. Which is precisely what would happen if he did not stay on. Where are the investors he wittered on about?
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| Quote ="hull smallears"And also calls Administration Administration. Which is precisely what would happen if he did not stay on. Where are the investors he wittered on about?'" You seemed to have missed the context in the use of the word.
IIRC he said we wouldn't be doing a Bradford and that was where the use of the word came into play.
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| Amazing what a couple of decent results can do.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Amazing what a couple of decent results can do.'"
Kinda like your team then? A team that couldn't buy a win after the first ten games, then win a few and your the best team in world of rugby league.
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| Quote ="moxi1"Kinda like your team then? A team that couldn't buy a win after the first ten games, then win a few and your the best team in world of rugby league.'"
That's right just the same. Our chairman has been talking down our club all season, crying out for more investment, and talking about Hull KR at every opportunity. Every one of our fans has been shouting from the rooftops about how we should be world club champions.
Exactly the same as you say. Nice accurate post by your good self.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"That's right just the same. Our chairman has been talking down our club all season, crying out for more investment, and talking about Hull KR at every opportunity. Every one of our fans has been shouting from the rooftops about how we should be world club champions.
Exactly the same as you say. Nice accurate post by your good self.'"
I didn't mean in that sense, I meant in regards to you lot claiming you'll be world champions at the beginning of the season. Then 10 games in its 'oh we're rubbish, to many average players'. Then go on a run picking up a few lucky wins and you lot are better then Wigan all over again.
And then after this weekend your opinions are that you are once again average after getting beat at Cas. Do make your minds up.
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| Quote ="moxi1"I didn't mean in that sense, I meant in regards to you lot claiming you'll be world champions at the beginning of the season. Then 10 games in its 'oh we're rubbish, to many average players'. Then go on a run picking up a few lucky wins and you lot are better then Wigan all over again.
And then after this weekend your opinions are that you are once again average after getting beat at Cas. Do make your minds up.'"
Tbf, that binary only ever amazing or atrocious thing is something that all 'passionate' fans do - us too. Sometimes it is a bit ott, but it is what keeps us coming back.
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Play poorly and win narrowly - that is what the best teams do, what great composure.
Play poorly and lose narrowly - we're complete rubbish and didn't deserve anything, we've got a fundamental attitude problem.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Tbf, that binary only ever amazing or atrocious thing is something that all 'passionate' fans do - us too. Sometimes it is a bit ott, but it is what keeps us coming back.
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Play poorly and win narrowly - that is what the best teams do, what great composure.
Play poorly and lose narrowly - we're complete rubbish and didn't deserve anything, we've got a fundamental attitude problem.'"
Yea but we know what we are, a 5th to 10th placed team. I think thats a very fair judgment.
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| TBF to FC fans I do think the media perpetuate the myth that they are Grand Final contenders, Eddie was waxing lyrical about them having one eye on old trafford before the cas game.
After watching last nights game I think we all have a hell of a lot to do to even get close to that level of performance.
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| Quote ="moxi1"Yea but we know what we are, a 5th to 10th placed team. I think thats a very fair judgment.'"
Aye, true.
I've just been thinking about the stereotypes, off the back of the locked 'we're humble, they're arrogant' thread, their supposed delusions of grandeur, our supposed small-minded bitterness, and how it is reinforced through the adversarial points-scoring bickering. Or how it arises from the in-club self-evident truths - that are never challenged (though they can be mutable!).
Quite an artifice to maintain, really.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"You seemed to have missed the context in the use of the word.
IIRC he said we wouldn't be doing a Bradford and that was where the use of the word came into play.'" I guess not seeing as this is twice now I have pointed it out to you and you have failed to reply.
0-10 for trolling then.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I guess not seeing as this is twice now I have pointed it out to you and you have failed to reply.
0-10 for trolling then.'"
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| The problem with the Hull fans is they got carried away when they won there cup final against Leeds second string
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| As usual a good frank and honest interveiw with neil hudgell on rovers.tv ,im guessing paterson will be returning back home but neil seems very positive on the future of our club.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"The problem with the Hull fans is they got carried away when they won there cup final against Leeds second string'"
At least we won our cup final
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"At least we won our cup final'"
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Tbf, I think honest and discrete are both fine and Gentle was just being discrete. My only problem was the agent being neither.
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Absolutely bang on the money!!! The reason I was disappointed with Hudgells comments is because his issue is with Paea's agent. If Hull had already signed Paea, its up to them how and when they announce it. What was Gentle meant to say? All clubs will announce players as and when they feel it will help them most as regards season ticket sales, releasing fan pressure etc.
As an FC fan I was pretty shocked by Paea's agents comments. They were cutting, especially about a player that before rovers, had been a bit part NRL prop, not box office. Rovers deserved far far better than that.
As regards Hudge, what he's done for Rovers has been extraordinary, and if he went i'd miss him. He's part of what makes the rivalry between these two clubs what it is, and part of the reason I love this game. Local guy done good, putting something back. Sandercock will come good, Hull will progress, both clubs will be knocking on the door of the top four in the next couple of years.
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"Absolutely bang on the money!!! The reason I was disappointed with Hudgells comments is because his issue is with Paea's agent. If Hull had already signed Paea, its up to them how and when they announce it. What was Gentle meant to say? All clubs will announce players as and when they feel it will help them most as regards season ticket sales, releasing fan pressure etc.
As an FC fan I was pretty shocked by Paea's agents comments. They were cutting, especially about a player that before rovers, had been a bit part NRL prop, not box office. Rovers deserved far far better than that.
As regards Hudge, what he's done for Rovers has been extraordinary, and if he went i'd miss him. He's part of what makes the rivalry between these two clubs what it is, and part of the reason I love this game. Local guy done good, putting something back. Sandercock will come good, Hull will progress, both clubs will be knocking on the door of the top four in the next couple of years.'"
I think Gentle could have said no comment instead it just looks like he lied
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I think Gentle could have said no comment instead it just looks like he lied'"
Saying no comment is even more ambiguous in my opinion. People will then just assume that we had signed him anyway. At least admitting we had offered him a deal meant't that supporters of both teams knew it was a possibility.
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| He stands by his comments regards the Paea situation & challenged those from FC ( Gentle & Pearson ) to come clean but indicated that their silence on the matter spoke volumes.
What's it got to do with your Chairman when Hull Fc announce new players for next season, it may well be we have signed Paea but I cannot find anything in our clubs announcements that say that.
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| Quote ="Punos"He stands by his comments regards the Paea situation & challenged those from FC ( Gentle & Pearson ) to come clean but indicated that their silence on the matter spoke volumes.
What's it got to do with your Chairman when Hull Fc announce new players for next season, it may well be we have signed Paea but I cannot find anything in our clubs announcements that say that.'"
I don't think timing of the signing announcement is the issue, its more to do with Peas agent and Hulls lack of candour in the whole matter, it is a similar situation to the McDonnell one last year when his agent created a sense of deception by insisting he was destined for Australia even though he knew he wasn't and all the time talking to Hull fc with a an intent on signing for them.
Its all the smoke and mirrors stuff that gets up peoples noses, more so than the actual fact that a player like Pea is moving across the river.
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| Just returned from a two week stint in Cyprus so not been able to comment until now.
I really can't see the problem certain people have with Neil Hudgell on this issue. For 5 months we had the issue with Shannon Mc stating he was returning to Australia before he'd make a decision on his future. He stated this despite everybody in Hull seemingly knowing he'd already signed a deal with Hull. Now Paea's agent has stated the same thing even with the club knowing different. Paea's agent should have done one of two things for me. He either stays quiet or he makes an honest statement. The fact that he came out and lied in his statement to the Hull Daily Mail reflects badly on Mickey when he's been nothing but a cracking player in the two years we've had the pleasure to watch him play.
He's not irreplaceable but will be sadly missed. Hull have captured a cracking player and despite been on mega money he's earned it.
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