Why do you just want to argue with posters

Had you followed my posts I was discussing the media circus which now surronds KR & Cockayne. I believe the fact Cas have acted has placed pressure on KR, 2 clubs 2 sets of standards etc..

I do not agree with the media circus..I am aware it is not isolated incident as I have watched the sport for 30 yrs and I am more than aware of off field antics, decent posters can debate this, you however seem unable to do this

I agree.

Now let him get on with playing rugby.

2 years in prison would have cost the tax payers thousands.

Make him do his CS down west hull teaching kids to read.

Crocker's punishment was a £300 fine for what's been described as a "scuffle". I don't recall reports of him inflicting 7 broken ribs, a broken nose and severe head swelling on anyone, but if you can post a link, fair enough.

Unfortunately RL players have a track record of getting into trouble with nightclub scuffles and the like and both Hull clubs have their fair share. IMO, the clubs (FC included) and the RFL have let them off too lightly with the old "dealt with internally" whitewash. Even you must see, though, that this one, with the sustained and brutal nature of the attack and its consequences in terms of injuries, tips into a different category.

Nor me trace, you're wright the HDM is no ne better tha gutter press all my family have alreaady stopped buying it, most of what you read in it thes days is rubbish anyway, it certainly is not the quality paper it used to be once upon a time.

The strange thing about this is, i thought that during the summing up by the judge, he stated that one of the reasons for not sending them to prison was because the victim suffered no real injuries, if thats the case then, how come all these injuries have suddenly come to light?.

The suspended sentence is an example of the shambles that our judicial system has evolved into.
Based on the video evidence he should be behind bars and I think the RFL will have "words" with HKR about the continued employment of a convicted thug.

Unlikely if you think of the number of players with criminal convictions.

I keep reading how Cas have done the moral thing in sacking their player but yet they were trying to and came very close to signing Ben before he signed a contract extension with us knowing full well he had pleaded guilty to the allegations

They also not long ago signed Dwayne Barker who also had a previous conviction.

I don't buy into this whole moral highground thing.

This cas reaction is laughable ,they seem to have acted to appear whiter than white in terminating a player who has appeared for the reserves once this season ,dont forget this is a club that gave a trial to a drug cheat chased away by his own sport who was known worldwide and then took on a previous SL drug cheat,and before you say they were both punished before so was ben cockayne .This is not in defense of ben cockayne BTW

Well it sounds like it, taking a steroid will only affect the person taking it (yes its wrong) . Seems beating the crap out of someone on cctv does not carry a ban as it did in the cases you refer to .

Because both of the cases reffered to involved something that would alter the performance of the players in the sport.

answer this HONESTLY would you have been as quick to sack westerman ,also your club tried to sign ben knowing of the assault

didnt get the right punishment though ive seen people jailed for far far less

Not denying that im just saying he went up before a judge who will be experienced in these types of assaults and he passed the sentance he felt the incident warrented. I know Ben did wrong but its not his fault what sentance the judge passes down to him. The problem is with the judicial system in this country

Simple answer is, 'no they wouldn't have', nobody has heard of the player that was sacked and he ws probably a very average player.

My first post on this thread, what he did was awful and thats being nice. To kick anoher human being in the head and keep on doing it, words can't describe.

Is this the same Cas that chased Ben's signature during the winter even though he had pleaded guilty?

Yes it is, but this Cas fan did not want him, im all for second chances after your punishment is done, just seems to me - so far hes walking away scott free . If it had been joe public they would be behind bars now .

But surely you realise that neither Cas or Rovers knew the full extent of the seriousness of the violence two years ago?

All they knew is that an assault had taken place and the pair had pleaded guilty.

The full extent of the atrocious nature of the violence has only come to light during the trial, thanks in part to the CCTV footage only recently revealed.

Rovers or Cas cannot be blamed for signing the players "with this hanging over them". What they are accountable for is how they deal with the situation now it's enormity is revealed.

Cas have sacked their second rate player. As I have stated previously, Rovers are in a slightly more tricky situation as if they sack the thug, someone else will have him. The RFL MUST act to ensure no club have that option.

The fact that the thug has shown no remorse and instead has blamed his actions on a "flashback" to the time he served in Iraq (doing what, exactly?) should only make this easier for them.

Wrong, again.

Really? Did both clubs have access to the footage when thay signed the players?

Go and find out for yourself.

So you dont know !

I know that WIH comment isn't strictly true, yes.

You seem to be insinuating that your club did indeed realise what they were dealing with.

If so, then yes, no signing should have taken place and yes, indeed, this whole show of "meetings" and "discussions" is irrelevant.

So ARE you making the assertion that Rovers knew all?