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| Quote ="red al"best read the 34 pages robbo.'"
I just have and you should be ashamed of some of the crap you've been spouting. Thankfully some of the more sensible and moral rovers fans have seen the incident for what it is. Try looking at the incident as if you didn't even know who he was, let alone that he is a rovers player, and see if you come to the same conclusion.
A couple of points. You could understand him protecting a mate who had been punched, you could even understand him throwing a few punches but once he is on the floor and defenceless its just cowardly thuggary to continue to attack him with the help of his mate. Even then you could possibly argue he was in a fit of rage and influenced by alcohol but he then comes back to dish out a further beating. Watching him walk away afterwards he doesn't even look that drunk so his thinking cant have been that impaired. Its sickening and he should be prison and he certainly shouldn't be earning a living off decent hard working RL fans.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I just have and you should be ashamed of some of the crap you've been spouting. Thankfully some of the more sensible and moral rovers fans have seen the incident for what it is. Try looking at the incident as if you didn't even know who he was, let alone that he is a rovers player, and see if you come to the same conclusion.
A couple of points. You could understand him protecting a mate who had been punched, you could even understand him throwing a few punches but once he is on the floor and defenceless its just cowardly thuggary to continue to attack him with the help of his mate. Even then you could possibly argue he was in a fit of rage and influenced by alcohol but he then comes back to dish out a further beating. Watching him walk away afterwards he doesn't even look that drunk so his thinking cant have been that impaired. Its sickening and he should be prison and he certainly shouldn't be earning a living off decent hard working RL fans.'"
he is scum and should be treated that way
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| People would be wiser to rail against the judicial system, and not individual figures.
What he's done is very, very wrong, but to make him out to be the be-all and end-all is not the way to act.
I'm sure he was expecting a spell in jail, we all was. British justice decided this was not so, and therein lies the problem.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"People would be wiser to rail against the judicial system, and not individual figures.
What he's done is very, very wrong, but to make him out to be the be-all and end-all is not the way to act.
I'm sure he was expecting a spell in jail, we all was. British justice decided this was not so, and therein lies the problem.'"
Were you his cell mate while he was on remand?
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"People would be wiser to rail against the judicial system, and not individual figures.
What he's done is very, very wrong, but to make him out to be the be-all and end-all is not the way to act.
I'm sure he was expecting a spell in jail, we all was. British justice decided this was not so, and therein lies the problem.'"
Absolutely spot on
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Were you his cell mate while he was on remand?'"
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"I'm sure he was expecting a spell in jail, we all was. British justice decided this was not so, and therein lies the problem.'"
If he had been sent down, that would have made Rovers board's life easier. The fact that the victim is in the HDM today listing his injuries (seven broken ribs, a broken nose, severe head swelling etc) is throwing petrol on the flames. People say (usually rightly) that FC's board is inept, but I think it's a bit odd that Rovers are saying "they don't know when the meeting will take place".
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If he had been sent down, that would have made Rovers board's life easier. The fact that the victim is in the HDM today listing his injuries (seven broken ribs, a broken nose, severe head swelling etc) is throwing petrol on the flames. People say (usually rightly) that FC's board is inept, but I think it's a bit odd that Rovers are saying "they don't know when the meeting will take place".
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Maybe they should have acted as quick as Cas on their descision whatever KR decide..the way it is going in the media there will be a national outcry for him to be sacked
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If he had been sent down, that would have made Rovers board's life easier. The fact that the victim is in the HDM today listing his injuries (seven broken ribs, a broken nose, severe head swelling etc) is throwing petrol on the flames. People say (usually rightly) that FC's board is inept, but I think it's a bit odd that Rovers are saying "they don't know when the meeting will take place".
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i did hear last night that the club will be releasing a statement at some point today. as for the hdm, they will print anything to sell a few extra papers as all rags do. tomorrows chip paper! the sooner this whole ugly incident is out of the way the better.
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| The Sunday Rags tomorrow..be like a flipping Kangaroo Court
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| Quote ="red al"i did hear last night that the club will be releasing a statement at some point today. as for the hdm, they will print anything to sell a few extra papers as all rags do. tomorrows chip paper! the sooner this whole ugly incident is out of the way the better.'"
What size brush would you like to use ?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If he had been sent down, that would have made Rovers board's life easier. The fact that the victim is in the HDM today listing his injuries (seven broken ribs, a broken nose, severe head swelling etc) is throwing petrol on the flames. People say (usually rightly) that FC's board is inept, but I think it's a bit odd that Rovers are saying "they don't know when the meeting will take place".
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I would imagine that it's quite difficult for the club to deal with. It is outside the normal day-to-day happening surrounding a rugby club, and despite having a legal mind on the board (tap-in), it's a case of asking lots of questions as to what the best course of action is, and i am sure it's not a decision that will be made lightly.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"What size brush would you like to use ?'"
not sure, may ask auntie james and uncle kath!
TBF things like this probably will not be forgotten but should quieten down in a couple of weeks.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"I would imagine that it's quite difficult for the club to deal with. It is outside the normal day-to-day happening surrounding a rugby club, and despite having a legal mind on the board (tap-in), it's a case of asking lots of questions as to what the best course of action is, and i am sure it's not a decision that will be made lightly.'"
Cas clearly though it was not a difficult descision which puts KR under a little more pressure I expect..the rags are not interested in the level of the player inolved
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Cas clearly though it was not a difficult descision which puts KR under a little more pressure I expect..the rags are not interested in the level of the player inolved'"
not at all, nobody had heard of the kid until this ugly episode. check previous posts, been here already.
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| Quote ="red al"not at all, nobody had heard of the kid until this ugly episode. check previous posts, been here already.'"
I know..keep up was discussing the media influence on the case and interpretation
Basically Cas have made a moral stance rightly irrelevant of the level of player..the media will use this as part of the circus which may add more pressure of KR
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"England footballer Steven Gerrard looked relieved yesterday after [uassault[/u charges against him were dropped. The £120,000-a-week Liverpool captain puffed out his cheeks as he left a court hearing over an alleged bar brawl which left a businessman injured.
Gerrard, 28, is still accused of [uaffray[/u
So you are still maintaining the two cases are comparable in severity, then?'"
I am saying that affray is the use of or the threatening of violence.Affray is a more serious charge because it means that there was more than one person involved. In Gerrards case it seems there was n o evidence that he assaulted anyone but the Crown takes the view that he threatened to do so with the crowd he was with. Is that clear enough for you? I also asked, would you still want Crocker to play for you?
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Cas clearly though it was not a difficult descision which puts KR under a little more pressure I expect..the rags are not interested in the level of the player inolved'"
And had it been Westerman or one of their other first team stars, would the decision have been as easy?
The decision has been dealt with by the courts and what the judge, who had all the evidence, considers to be a relevant punishment has been handed out.
Sensationalist journalism from the Hull Daily Mail, no better than the gutter press - wonder how much he's demanding for his story. I won't be buying it tonight.
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| i think the club should be liasing with the RFL on this one, there is no point repremanding him if the RFL are then going to wade in with something else. i for one would not relese him because he will definately get snapped straight up. he has matured on the field considerably over the last 12 months and looks to have addressed his temprement, off the field however, i could'nt possibly comment!
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| Quote ="RoversTrace"And had it been Westerman or one of their other first team stars, would the decision have been as easy?
The decision has been dealt with by the courts and what the judge, who had all the evidence, considers to be a relevant punishment has been handed out.
Sensationalist journalism from the Hull Daily Mail, no better than the gutter press - wonder how much he's demanding for his story. I won't be buying it tonight.'"
Not disputing that at all..however 2 clubs involved,media,national audience..recipe for disaster
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| I notice the HDM has it's hate campaign in full swing.
Whilst I cannot condone the incident, I dont think anyone deserves trial by media.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Not disputing that at all..however 2 clubs involved,media,national audience..recipe for disaster
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| Quote ="red al"its not as isolated as you may think, and the sport is not as squeeky clean as a lot of people like to make out. like i said, tommorows chip paper.'"
I know have followed rl for 30 yrs
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I know have followed rl for 30 yrs
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| Quote ="Standee"I notice the HDM has it's hate campaign in full swing.
Whilst I cannot condone the incident, I dont think anyone deserves trial by media.'"
I thought you never read any press?
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