Can Guarantee you I'm not bitter, was just a bit bored and decided to join in the making stuff up party that is the basis of this thread... should have added FACT somewhere in there for added gravitas.

Bottom line is, we are playing a bit crud, our neighbours are playing well, unfounded rumours always surround teams not doing too well but lets be honest 99% of them are just made up stuff. Kelly is out of form, playing as a sole halfback will do that to him, was the same last year once Campo was out. Campo will play again, for how long is the question.

Green's future will be what it is, he's going well for us but he isn't the superstar some are making out, runs in hard but makes less impact than some will have you believe and isn't the best defender, the difference between him and Tilse isn't the gulf some are making out, yet Green will be lauded as MOS material and Tilse NL2 (or whatever its called now) fodder.

I agree about tilse and green standing in the east stand tilse was getting slagged off but I thought he played quite well against cas and he's a lot better defender than green I like green and hope he stays but like you say he's not the superstar some seem to think

Shock Horror. Discounting the unfortunate Josh Mantellato, Tilse is vying with Bobby Blair to be my Rovers player of the year to date.

Pryce will go to Bradford. Yeamo will do a job at 6 for a year though, don't worry

Tilse reminds me of Peter Cusack when he played for us. Alot of casual fans don't like them because they do nothing to catch the eye, but a scholar of the game would see the value they bring to the side. Tilse isn't a world beater, but he's solid enough.

You don't notice what he does because he is a hides out and does nothing, against Castleford they had us down at our end green took the 1st drive then a outside back took the 2nd drive then green took the 3rd the next 2 drives where taken by back row and where was tilse while all this was going on? Hiding out practically stood in the east stand, he Had only just come back on the pitch and he was hiding out for a breather, we don't need players like that at the minute we need people to roll there sleeves up and get stuck in

This just goes to prove fans see what they want to see

That's strange because I actually though in his second stint he was one of the better players on the pitch, made a few crucial tackles and a few decent breaks. Green was getting dominated, ran it in hard but was stopped dead and went backwards.

What we don't know is what the coaching staff tell them to do when they go on. I assume there is an exit set strategy and a kick off strategy etc Maybe Green is told to take an early one in then let the backs scoot a few to make quick yards..

Your right tilse was very good in his second stint bit like i said fans see what they want to and tilse is never going to be a crowd favourite no matter what he does

Bearing in mind we lost Greenwood early and allgood got binned for 10 minutes tilses stats read

23 tackles
5 marker tackles
3 missed tackles
9 carries for 62 meters

As opposed to greens

42 tackles
7 marker tackles
3 missed tackles
15 carries for 76 meters

And allgood had 10 minutes in the bin his stats where

38 tackles
5 marker tackles
2 missed tackles
9 carries for 81 meters

So going off them seems tilse was slacking on the tackles and carries front and although green seemed to not make to much yardage for his carries at least he had a bit of ago when we where down to 2 front rowers surely you would expect more from tilse?

Hull2524 do you actually get perverted pleasure from posting absolute Barry White on this site.

Let the music play on

All I've said is you will have new halfbacks next year even maybe this year.

Stats can be misleading they don't always tell the story I prefer to say it as I see it green did give it ago but was dominated I just think tilse played better than people have give him credit for

I agree Frankie. Tilse had a blinding second spell against Cas and was our best front rower overall against Wire. So far so good for Tilse this year as far as I'm concerned.

Amongst our forwards, Horne has had a couple of shockers so far.

I guess people do see what they want to see,
Tilse is only my part time figure of hate this season till larroyer is fit then i will get back to having ago about him

What's wrong with larroyer he's been excellent

Nobody should speak ill of Super Kev.

I feel my ire rising.

I like French Kevin they just played him wrong last season which made him ineffective

Does that come down to a coaching issue? A squad issue on a whole? Or the players attitude? I think all 3 to be honest

I think the first two as you have to play to players strengths which we didn't last season

Another awful performance

Kelly is operating at 50% of his 2015 early season form at the mo.

So far this season he has been less creative than Blair.

Yesterday Albert was so one dimensional and predictable. We were frequently inside the Wakefield 20 and Ben Jones Bishbosh tracked him laterally along the line for the last play and when he chose to kick the ball into the in goal area through the only gap available, hey presto there was BJB to gobble it up. Albert had nobody to pass to as they were all covered, but worst of all it looked so slow and half hearted.

Like a few others, he must wonder what he has done to deserve playing alongside such an average bunch for a rudderless coaching set up, but it's in his best interests and ours to try to rediscover his past form or he will be rebuilding a lost reputation for the rest of his career.

But does that also cover the rest of the team at least the decent players we have

Having been thrilled by Kellys performances pre injury last year, it is evident to me that he is disinterested/disruptive and obviously angling for a move. Looking back at his history he seems to do really well for a short period of time every club he has been at.
Time to move him on for me and get a steadier if less spectacular pair of hands.
Sio is our best player by a country mile so we need to get him involved more often which means playing him at full back where he was supposed to play hence the 1 jersey.
As for yesterdays performance DIRE.