Shows how much you've seen Green, He has the potential to be a very good player and is rated very highly at Rovers.

Why don't we wait and see how Rovers do over the next few years before you spout more condecending shiite.

Let's clear this up, James Green is not a dirty player. His previous record and style of play show this. We can not hide from the fact that it was a bad challenge but i do not feel as though it was malicious. Mis timed big hit - yes, but i think the biggest problem was the size of green against burns and the action burns was making which was a feigned step and giving an inside ball which brought his body lower. This does not excuse Green's challenge and a defender has to adapt to this.

Why this has escalated is now due to Burn's injury. Those calling for a ban for green the same length of Burns need to be careful for what they wish for and sets a dangerous precedent going forward. The intent was to give a big shot and let him know he will be in a game, and not to purposely injure him. Which i believe also reflects the Meli incident from a couple of years back which was mis timed - not malicious. Anybody calling this differently I feel is completely unfounded in their allegations.

An extra thought - Does becoming champions automatically turn supporters into arrogant, obnoxious imbeciles? some of the comments on here over the last couple of days have been ridiculous from saints fans

A 24 year old prop with less than 50 games in his career. Poor lad might as well give up now if he's got no room for improvement.

I'll remind you of this when the inevitable happens and he heads to the NRL or another SL club for a large transfer fee. Who knows, Sts might fancy him after the roaring success of the last prop you took from us.

Good post mate, but far too sensible. Get some knee-jerk into your life!

It does if they're Scousers, he'll no doubt be back on here getting all squeaky and high pitched. Wigan have a sense of self importance but no way as bad as St's fans.

I like James Green, but setting all club differences aside this incident shows all that is wrong with the disciplinary system. This was a perfect text book example of why the shoulder charge was banned, he doesn't get a card (fair enough, ref probably didn't get a great look at it) and he gets two matches, is allowed to submit a EGP, and ends up missing one match.

If we are really serious about stamping out foul play then it's not acceptable. What kind of a deterrent is that?

Well said. It's the same for tackling below the knee that Paea got banned for. It happens week in week out and yet no one gets banned now?

Thats the way the RFL work tho'. They bring a new rule out, hammer it for a month or so then completely ignore from then on in.

Under your skin it seems

I suggest the people complaining about the shoulder charge by Green and the sentence handed down view RFL ON FIELD COMPLIANCE PROCEDURES & SENTENCING GUIDELINES
Sentencing Guidelines
Rule 15.1 (K)
Shoulder Charge B-D Indirect or secondary contact with the head of an attacking player.
C-E Direct initial contact with the head of an attacking player.
A-C Other dangerous contact.
After viewing the incident The Match Review Panel decided on a grade B offence which carries a Tariff of 1-2 matches. I’m pretty certain they would have the benefit of better replays than viewers either watching Sky/Super League show.

The tariff is inline with his actions then as even on the sky replays you see that Green hits the top of Burns shoulder which slides up into his face.

You see, my dear boy, we are St Helens. This isn't some rugby league backwater where laps of the field are appllcable following victory. This is a place where the club, fans, players, man on the street, expect to win, demand victory even. Not hope, not pray for a decent cup draw - no, none of that level of desperation. This is a place where self importance is instilled precisely because we are important. Our name resonates throughout the game; it's why you do laps of the field following victory over ourselves; it's why when the cup draw is made, you pray our name isn't pulled out; it's why you aren't surprised when yet another trophy is placed in our cabinet - it's because we are St Helens. This is the kind of club that James Green will want to play for when he inevitably decides his present rugby league backwater is no longer for him. Right now, he's fine. Should he become good then the likes of St Helens will roll into town. Self importance is a part of being an establishment like our own; it's part of our make up, if you will.

On the challenge, well Green was a lucky boy; however now our chairman, the most respected in the game and a man whom the authorities listen to has spoken publicly. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Green is dragged back for a further hearing. You see again, when St Helens' chairman speaks, the RFL listen. That's part of being whom we are also.

Cheerio now.

If Barham Red's point needed any validation, there you have it ladies and gentlemen.

Oh dear, SLS you really are a plank. And for the record our players walk round the east and north stand and back to the west stand after every match win lose or draw, not just because we beat Saints at home yet agin.

We drew you in the cup last year chief.

What a plank. Whats your recent record over ourselves again? As for the RFL dragging him in again because your chairman has had a word get real and lose the self importance, Mcmanus statement was wrong btw. Green recieved a 2 match ban which was reduced to a 1 match ban due to his good discipline previously meaning he still had an EGP. Something that Saints players have benefitted from many times previously.

Amended for emphasis. Typical scouse kn*bhead!!

We must have been practising all these years then, as I saw nothing after the Sts game that the players did any different to any other game at Craven Park in the last 15 years.


Didn't do us any harm last time you got pulled out of the ball bag against us. Well, most of us weren't harmed, I can't speak for Craig Hall.

Yep, still smarting

Ladies and gents, don't waste your time typing away talking about your cup result or annual victory over us at Craven Park - it matters not a jot. These are regular hiccups that we sustain on our march to whichever final we're making each year.

Here's what matters. Your last trophy of any note was in 1985. Since then, here's ours......

League leaders - 5 times.
Champions - 6 times.
Challenge Cup winners - 7 times.
World champions - 2 times.

So apologies but please do excuse me if the odd defeat in the black hole of Calcutta doesn't see me lose any sleep.

Cheerio.

Congratulations Mr McManus, you have earned this:




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Like you did with Rich Beaumont, just shows, all the arrogance in the world and you still know Jack Sh!t about players and their worth. Now trot along and get ready for your pretend derby on Friday, but be warned, that nasty Mr Wane is calling for a physical approach from his players, you know how that upsets you chaps.

He cant be a plank!!.
They are useful.

So Rovers again defeated us home. And deserved it was too.

And they did the same last season. That said, when we were parading that big trophy around Old Trafford last October the loss at Caravan Park meant very little to any St Helens fan.


St Helens do laps of honour after winning major trophies.



By contrast...




Rovers do laps of honour after winning two points against us.