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| Why don't we get Justin Morgan back and still finish eighth but watch really boring rugby and plenty of hammerings from the big boys
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Why don't we get Justin Morgan back and still finish eighth but watch really boring rugby and plenty of hammerings from the big boys'"
But god could he wear shoes and shades!
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| Quote ="SirStan"But not the paying customers'"
That's a very wide ranging assumption.
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| Quote ="Voltaire"Perhaps the club should inform fans that they are only looking to win one out of every five games , or do not expect to have much chance against decent teams before said fans splash out several hundred pounds having been given expectations of challenging for the top 5 and having aspirations of a decent team.
I am sure the end of season table will tell its usual story of bottom half pluckiness...mixed with some downright awfulness with the odd decent performance...'"
I don't 're call anyone claiming we would finish 5 th let alone above that.
I want Sandercock to be a success as he seems a decent intelligent hard working man. He has been incredibly unlucky generally. Unlucky with injuries and look who he pulls out the hat in the cup each time. Some refs decisions well...
His tactics and substitutions have been poor in a lot of games but are improving. He's terrible with the media and his anxieties seem to rub off on the players sometimes.
Our league form is up and down under him so I have doubts about him like many on here but......
He inherited a basket case going nowhere fast when Morgan left. From what I saw of results the youth teams were getting battered each week. Our first team regularly folded.
This takes years to change with a new culture and training. 2years in and our youth team are beating Wigan's.
He seems to improve the majority of his players especially the halves hookers and props. He's bought sensibly and the players clearly want to play for him.
We had an incredibly thin squad which he has rectified in 2 seasons.
Our attack is coming together under this new squad and the defence is no longer soft in the middle.
He seems the type of coach who'll leave a long positive legacy and he's improving as a head coach all the time.
For me stick with him.
Comparing him to Powell is harsh. Some coaches make an immediate impact then implode spectacularly. Let's see how Cas go over the next 2 years.
I think our young forwards give us a bright future...Walkers Green Hodgson Cox Larroyer (if we keep him) and he should get credit for that. He needs a strong assistant to help him. Is Chester who we should replace? I don't know.
We are a mid table club punching above its weight regularly. If he can get us in the top 6 this year that's a serious achievement. It's not beyond us. Our next 8 fixtures will tell us everything.
He has a family living here and will be offered jobs in Aus if Roopy's posts are a judgement of his reputation as a backroom coach over there. We couldn't wait much longer to make him an offer.
Could be a shocker to keep him. Could be a shocker to let him go.
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Quote ="Burtons Forearm"I don't 're call anyone claiming we would finish 5 th let alone above that.
=#BF0000CHAIRMAN Neil Hudgell says the best Super League squad Hull KR have assembled is good enough to challenge for a place in the top five. And if Rovers can stay free of the injury woes that struck them last season, he sees no reason why that can’t be a realistic target.
Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Neil-Hud ... z301ynWnB4
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=#BF0000CHAIRMAN Neil Hudgell says the best Super League squad Hull KR have assembled is good enough to challenge for a place in the top five. And if Rovers can stay free of the injury woes that struck them last season, he sees no reason why that can’t be a realistic target.
Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Neil-Hud ... z301ynWnB4
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| Highlighting the paragraph in red wont make it prove the point you hope if would. Perhaps you could point out where anyone from the club states top 5?
About as convincing an argument as your off half's claim the you can make the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"And if Rovers can stay free of the injury woes that struck them last season, he sees no reason why that can’t be a realistic target.'"
Well that was a bummer. We've lost one player for the season whilst J Walker A.Walker, Langley and Gleeson along with D.Hodgson have already had long spells on the sidelines whilst Keatings currently missed the last two games after limping off against Warrington..
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| Well, while you lot of sycophants, who gladly lick up to people with no rugby knowledge or record, enjoy the delights of finishing 8th, 10th and probably 8th , 9th or 10th , wallow in the genius of giving another genius a new £100,000 deal out of your gate money, some of us will be glad never to watch an RL game again..
Rovers are desperate for anyone with some RL knowledge to be involved at the top, the Sandercock decision stinks of amateurs....as did the month jolly to Aus(on the club), to appoint him...
Aside from Phil Lowe, who is practically senile now, there is absolutely no RL people involved, a very sad state of affairs..the chairman(and Vice and assorted buddies (commentator etc)), (none of em ever played at all), lets be honest, if he had no money and was an everyday supporter , would not be anywhere near the club in opinion or decision, yet he makes every decision going that drives the club in entirely the wrong direction on the field at least...luck followed by money is all it is and its leading Rovers up a very wrong path...by all means whack your money in but get rid of your useless mates and get some RL people in , we aint got Roger Millward or any men of experience this time around so its gonna be hard work...and Sandy ain't a Moses...
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| Quote ="Voltaire"Well, while you lot of sycophants, who gladly lick up to people with no rugby knowledge or record, enjoy the delights of finishing 8th, 10th and probably 8th , 9th or 10th , wallow in the genius of giving another genius a new £100,000 deal out of your gate money, some of us will be glad never to watch an RL game again..
Rovers are desperate for anyone with some RL knowledge to be involved at the top, the Sandercock decision stinks of amateurs....as did the month jolly to Aus(on the club), to appoint him...
Aside from Phil Lowe, who is practically senile now, there is absolutely no RL people involved, a very sad state of affairs..the chairman(and Vice and assorted buddies (commentator etc)), (none of em ever played at all), lets be honest, if he had no money and was an everyday supporter , would not be anywhere near the club in opinion or decision, yet he makes every decision going that drives the club in entirely the wrong direction on the field at least...luck followed by money is all it is and its leading Rovers up a very wrong path...by all means whack your money in but get rid of your useless mates and get some RL people in , we aint got Roger Millward or any men of experience this time around so its gonna be hard work...and Sandy ain't a Moses...'"
So why are you so bothered?
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| Don't see how you can slate hudg he saved the club and I think a lot of people forget were we was about 10-15 years ago they really was the bad days
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| Quote ="Voltaire"Well, while you lot of sycophants, who gladly lick up to people with no rugby knowledge or record, enjoy the delights of finishing 8th, 10th and probably 8th , 9th or 10th , wallow in the genius of giving another genius a new £100,000 deal out of your gate money, some of us will be glad never to watch an RL game again..
Rovers are desperate for anyone with some RL knowledge to be involved at the top, the Sandercock decision stinks of amateurs....as did the month jolly to Aus(on the club), to appoint him...
Aside from Phil Lowe, who is practically senile now, there is absolutely no RL people involved, a very sad state of affairs..the chairman(and Vice and assorted buddies (commentator etc)), (none of em ever played at all), lets be honest, if he had no money and was an everyday supporter , would not be anywhere near the club in opinion or decision, yet he makes every decision going that drives the club in entirely the wrong direction on the field at least...luck followed by money is all it is and its leading Rovers up a very wrong path...by all means whack your money in but get rid of your useless mates and get some RL people in , we aint got Roger Millward or any men of experience this time around so its gonna be hard work...and Sandy ain't a Moses...'"
i remember the 90s when we had rugby people involved what an golden era for the club that was at the top you need business people involved the rugby people they sort out the on field stuff
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| Quote ="Voltaire"Well, while you lot of sycophants, who gladly lick up to people with no rugby knowledge or record, enjoy the delights of finishing 8th, 10th and probably 8th , 9th or 10th , wallow in the genius of giving another genius a new £100,000 deal out of your gate money, some of us will be glad never to watch an RL game again..
Rovers are desperate for anyone with some RL knowledge to be involved at the top, the Sandercock decision stinks of amateurs....as did the month jolly to Aus(on the club), to appoint him...
Aside from Phil Lowe, who is practically senile now, there is absolutely no RL people involved, a very sad state of affairs..the chairman(and Vice and assorted buddies (commentator etc)), (none of em ever played at all), lets be honest, if he had no money and was an everyday supporter , would not be anywhere near the club in opinion or decision, yet he makes every decision going that drives the club in entirely the wrong direction on the field at least...luck followed by money is all it is and its leading Rovers up a very wrong path...by all means whack your money in but get rid of your useless mates and get some RL people in , we aint got Roger Millward or any men of experience this time around so its gonna be hard work...and Sandy ain't a Moses...'"
Maybe we should bring in somebody of the calibre of shaun 'job for the boy's' Mcrea in
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| Quote ="Voltaire"Well, while you lot of sycophants, who gladly lick up to people with no rugby knowledge or record, enjoy the delights of finishing 8th, 10th and probably 8th , 9th or 10th , wallow in the genius of giving another genius a new £100,000 deal out of your gate money, some of us will be glad never to watch an RL game again..
Rovers are desperate for anyone with some RL knowledge to be involved at the top, the Sandercock decision stinks of amateurs....as did the month jolly to Aus(on the club), to appoint him...
Aside from Phil Lowe, who is practically senile now, there is absolutely no RL people involved, a very sad state of affairs..the chairman(and Vice and assorted buddies (commentator etc)), (none of em ever played at all), lets be honest, if he had no money and was an everyday supporter , would not be anywhere near the club in opinion or decision, yet he makes every decision going that drives the club in entirely the wrong direction on the field at least...luck followed by money is all it is and its leading Rovers up a very wrong path...by all means whack your money in but get rid of your useless mates and get some RL people in , we aint got Roger Millward or any men of experience this time around so its gonna be hard work...and Sandy ain't a Moses...'"
Your right mate. By every measure imaginable Hudgel and his board have taken Rovers backwards since they took over.
Maybe we should get Sean Long Ray French and Alex Murphy in to run the club if rugby experience is essential to running the club. Here´s me thinking that Sandercock hasn't coached in the NRL.
Maybe you can't be a cardiologist if you haven't had a heart attack or a vet if you haven't been a horse.
To me the club is doing far better than most other clubs of its size.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"
To me the club is doing far better than most other clubs of its size.'"
Course it is. Clubs of our size include Cas, Huddersfield, Widnes. All been going backwards these last few years!
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| Quote ="Voltaire"Well, while you lot of sycophants, who gladly lick up to people with no rugby knowledge or record, enjoy the delights of finishing 8th, 10th and probably 8th , 9th or 10th , wallow in the genius of giving another genius a new £100,000 deal out of your gate money, some of us will be glad never to watch an RL game again..
Rovers are desperate for anyone with some RL knowledge to be involved at the top, the Sandercock decision stinks of amateurs....as did the month jolly to Aus(on the club), to appoint him...
Aside from Phil Lowe, who is practically senile now, there is absolutely no RL people involved, a very sad state of affairs..the chairman(and Vice and assorted buddies (commentator etc)), (none of em ever played at all), lets be honest, if he had no money and was an everyday supporter , would not be anywhere near the club in opinion or decision, yet he makes every decision going that drives the club in entirely the wrong direction on the field at least...luck followed by money is all it is and its leading Rovers up a very wrong path...by all means whack your money in but get rid of your useless mates and get some RL people in , we aint got Roger Millward or any men of experience this time around so its gonna be hard work...and Sandy ain't a Moses...'"
I agree with some of your points. The attack on Hudge however, I don't. The main reason why we are debating where we are as a decent mid range Super League side is all down to him. He's made some mistakes, granted. But even a man with rugby experience could of made the same.
But all that being said, I'm not enamoured about the timing of the coaches position. Please lets not make any announcements until the end of the season.
It's up to Sandy for us to have a good end to the season so I will buy my pass for next year. If we have a dreadful end, then its no pass for me and picking my games next season. And I know many who think the same.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Course it is. Clubs of our size include Cas, Huddersfield, Widnes. All been going backwards these last few years!'"
stan your anti sandercock agenda is there for all to see but remind we how many times cas and widnes have finished above us since weve been in super league and I doubt much will change this season Huddersfield on the other hand have a very wealthy backer. You said before the Bradford and wakefield games that when we win these games its because these teams were poor I think you even said we would lose to wakey then we beat warrington and suddenly there a poor side then we beat hull and its what if whiting had of kicked that goal. Who do you want to replace sandercock with stan
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"stan your anti sandercock agenda is there for all to see but remind we how many times cas and widnes have finished above us since weve been in super league and I doubt much will change this season Huddersfield on the other hand have a very wealthy backer. You said before the Bradford and wakefield games that when we win these games its because these teams were poor I think you even said we would lose to wakey then we beat warrington and suddenly there a poor side then we beat hull and its what if whiting had of kicked that goal. Who do you want to replace sandercock with stan'"
I can see were Stan is coming from now we are well into the season I say wait,if at the end of the season we are any better then the last 2 seasons by all means give him a new contract but if not pack is bags
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"I can see were Stan is coming from now we are well into the season I say wait,if at the end of the season we are any better then the last 2 seasons by all means give him a new contract but if not pack is bags'"
Signing & re-signing players is very difficult while there is uncertainty about the coaching position. Last year Hudge was threatening to walk & we were stalling on keeping Sandercock. This cost us players. The anti tampering deadline is next week. Planning for 2015 is happening now, another late decision will leave us playing catch up again.
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| I'm not saying give sandercock a five year deal because he's the best coach in the world I just think there isn't anyone going to come in and do a better job so its a matter of stability
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| I'm still not totally convinced. However, after 4 gamesish I stated on here that Hudge ought to set a target of 10 points after the first 10 games otherwise he should get rid immediately. Stangely enough, he's not far off with 9 points and improved performances including a tough easter monday fixture and injuries. Another 1 year deal seems fair. Hes probably hitting his targets, just not exceeding them.
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| In a funny coincidence, the new coach of the soccer team that shares a stadium with the Newcastle Knights is a guy from Hull named Phil Stubbins.
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| Voltaire the keyboard warrior calling Phil Lowe senile when did you last talk to him to form that opinion?
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