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| What is the actual point of Magic these days? Wasn't it originally brought in to promote expansion? :/
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"It was the only sentence that was relevent the rest was all fair enough.
So you admit it's highly unlikely the RFL were stuck with just the one weekend then but chose to pick that one?
So one has to ask either they decided to pick the weekend of one of the biggest sporting occasions to go up against or they didn't realise.
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We simply don't know if any other dates were available. Hammering the rfl without possession of these facts is pretty narrow minded.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"We simply don't know if any other dates were available. Hammering the rfl without possession of these facts is pretty narrow minded.'" Well looking at what is going on at the etihad during the off season it seems there are plenty of free weekends. Strange that.
Still it can't be the RFL's fault so maybe the RFL made the deal under alien control and Man City are refusing to let them change it?
But all joking aside who's fault is it that they left it so late that they had their dates restricted anyway. I'll give you a clue their initlals are RFL.
No matter how you spin it the RFL cocked it up.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Well looking at what is going on at the etihad during the off season it seems there are plenty of free weekends. Strange that.
Still it can't be the RFL's fault so maybe the RFL made the deal under alien control and Man City are refusing to let them change it?
But all joking aside who's fault is it that they left it so late that they had their dates restricted anyway. I'll give you a clue their initlals are RFL.
No matter how you spin it the RFL cocked it up.'"
The ramblings of a despot.
I'm not trying to spin anything mr mod, merely playing devils advocate versus the one-eyed masses.
You've no idea, and neither have I, what weekends are free. Could the pitch be getting relaid in June for example, we don't know. It's not inconceivable that mcfc said that's the only weekend available, even if unlikely.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"The ramblings of a despot.
I'm not trying to spin anything mr mod, merely playing devils advocate versus the one-eyed masses.
You've no idea, and neither have I, what weekends are free. Could the pitch be getting relaid in June for example, we don't know. It's not inconceivable that mcfc said that's the only weekend available, even if unlikely.'" There is that reference to me being a mod again. I suppose you think it means something.............Anyway.
Thanks for agreeing that it is unlikely. So what we have learned is that it is likely the RFL have cocked it up and unlikely (As you put it) that they haven't.
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| Quote ="sheppy27"Blunderside have said the RFL will not move the kick off time at Manchester well done RFL you clowns
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How is it ANY concern of the RFL that some team from another sport is playing at the same time as the Magic Weekend? Why should other teams supporters change their plans to accommodate Hull City Tigers? Why isn't it the FAs fault for moving the kick-off from the "traditional" 3pm? Surely that would solve the problem. Get onto the FA.
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| Quote ="ryano"icon_lol.gif How is it ANY concern of the RFL that some team from another sport is playing at the same time as the Magic Weekend? Why should other teams supporters change their plans to accommodate Hull City Tigers? Why isn't it the FAs fault for moving the kick-off from the "traditional" 3pm? Surely that would solve the problem. Get onto the FA.'" Psst the kick off time hasn't it's been 5PM for a few years.
Still doesn't explain the RFL's decision to go head to head with it however.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"There is that reference to me being a mod again. I suppose you think it means something.............Anyway.
Thanks for agreeing that it is unlikely. So what we have learned is that it is likely the RFL have cocked it up and unlikely (As you put it) that they haven't.'"
What we've learnt is that neither of us, or anyone else, knows if the rfl had alternative date they could've used or not.
Whether they 'cocked up' would be based on having possession of these facts, which we don't, and is completely subjective.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"
Still doesn't explain the RFL's decision to go head to head with it however.'"
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Two bald men arguing over a comb.'"
Get your own 'kin comb
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| I e-mailed the RFL to clarify why Magic Weekend is not taking place over the Bank holiday weekend.This is the reply is recieved from Rob Porteous
Thank you for your email below and I’d be delighted to clarify the reason why Magic Weekend is being played a week earlier this year.
Due to the Football World Cup taking place Manchester City’s season finishes a week earlier this year. As part of their pitch maintenance they used to remove the turf after their last game however since 2012 they’ve delayed this by a week in order for us to be able to play the Magic Weekend fixtures. It is for this reason that we’ve had to move the weekend not because of One Direction.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Psst the kick off time hasn't it's been 5PM for a few years.
Still doesn't explain the RFL's decision to go head to head with it however.'"
Yeah, right. This will be the 3rd one. Still "tradition" has to start somewhere I suppose!
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| Quote ="ryano"Yeah, right. This will be the 3rd one. Still "tradition" has to start somewhere I suppose!
'" So 3 as in a 'few' then right?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"
The bigger question is WTF were the RFL playing at booking it for that weekend anyway.
[uI have my thinking in that they probably[/u went for the dates they wanted late and were told it had already gone but were offered a weekend close to what they wanted. Manchester City probably thought 'It's FA cup weekend so they wont go for it' only to be shocked when the RFL didn't even do basic checks to check they didn't clash and came back with the positive answer.
I know that sounds far fetched but it is the RFL we are talking about here. Plus it's either that or they thought going head to head with the FA cup was a good idea.
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So, a complete conjecture on your part that the Rfl left it 'too late'. Either that or they wanted a 'head to head with the FA cup' (a final that was extremely unlikely to hold any interest for the vast majority of RL fans had it not been for the extremely unlikely scenario that has actually prevailled, but we'll leave that one aside for the moment). So you'll agree that your rantings and indignation on this thread stem from your own supposition that the Rfl was forced into choosing this date by their own tardiness?
Well, it transpires that your 'far fetched' dismissal turns out to be right:
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Due to the Football World Cup taking place Manchester City’s season finishes a week earlier this year. As part of their pitch maintenance they used to remove the turf after their last game however since 2012 they’ve delayed this by a week in order for us to be able to play the Magic Weekend fixtures. It is for this reason that we’ve had to move the weekend not because of One Direction.'"
Now, I've no love of the headless chickens in Red Hall, but it appears that you've spectacularly jumped the gun on this one.
Go on, bald(?) Ani, give us your thoughts (and the Rfl your apology?).
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So 3 as in a 'few' then right?'"
Erm, no! It's 2 as in 2! One hasn't occurred yet.
Stop bleating. After watching your game last night I'd have thought you'd all ditch the Wendyball for some more of that. There's no way the FA Cup final will match that!
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| If the cup final affects more than 100 fans of both clubs combined I'd be very surprised
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| Quote ="WormInHand"So, a complete conjecture on your part that the Rfl left it 'too late'. Either that or they wanted a 'head to head with the FA cup' (a final that was extremely unlikely to hold any interest for the vast majority of RL fans had it not been for the extremely unlikely scenario that has actually prevailled, but we'll leave that one aside for the moment). So you'll agree that your rantings and indignation on this thread stem from your own supposition that the Rfl was forced into choosing this date by their own tardiness?
Well, it transpires that your 'far fetched' dismissal turns out to be right:
Now, I've no love of the headless chickens in Red Hall, but it appears that you've spectacularly jumped the gun on this one.
Go on, bald(?) Ani, give us your thoughts (and the Rfl your apology?).'" When I'm wrong I'm wrong.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"If the cup final affects more than 100 fans of both clubs combined I'd be very surprised'" I think you could be very surprised then as an example I straight away know of 10 guys who will be watching the 'once in a lifetime' match over the MW match.
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| Quote ="ryano"Erm, no! It's 2 as in 2! One hasn't occurred yet.
Stop bleating. After watching your game last night I'd have thought you'd all ditch the Wendyball for some more of that. There's no way the FA Cup final will match that!'" So 2+1 is 3 or a 'few' at least we agree
Like it or not we are minority and Wendyball as you out it is boss unfortunatly.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I think you could be very surprised then as an example I straight away know of 10 guys who will be watching the 'once in a lifetime' match over the MW match.'"
There'no doubt in my mind that it will effect a lot more than 100 fans of both sides.
I usually go with a party of 8 adults and juniors to the MW but as the younger members are also Hull city fans, we will be obtaining tickets and attending the F.A cup final this year.
I was also talking to a few other rovers fans in the pub after Thursday nights game who were either going to the F.A cup game or knew of someone who would be.
At the end of the day its a probable once in a lifetime opportunity for many and unfortunately it clashes with the Hull KR v Hull Fc game.
The thing which is more significant in my mind is,.... the fact that the MW is supposed to be the RFL's attempt at showcasing the game to a wider audience outside of RL heartlands, however, as the F.A cup final and its big build up (which usually starts early in the day,) will probably mean that few people outside of Rugby league will bother to tune in to the MW on the same day imo.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"When I'm wrong I'm wrong.'"
Ah - so verbose when self-righteous presumption rises indignantly, a blazing balloon. So ungenerously succinct when it's popped.
It is a sign of great weakness of character when a man is unable to apologise.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Ah - so verbose when self-righteous presumption rises indignantly, a blazing balloon. So ungenerously succinct when it's popped.
It is a sign of great weakness of character when a man is unable to apologise.'"
That's only ever said by the person who wants the apology.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Ah - so verbose when self-righteous presumption rises indignantly, a blazing balloon. So ungenerously succinct when it's popped.
It is a sign of great weakness of character when a man is unable to apologise.'" What part of me saying I'm wrong did you misunderstand? Let me guess you came on this thread expecting a row but instead I did what I have done numerous times in the past when I have been wrong and admitted it thus having left you all deflated.
Still it could be worse I could hide under my rock instead of making the apology.
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