No I meant thinking we could attract top aussie coaches if and when Morgan goes.

Ah,just funning though mate.

It's a mark of how far HKR have come under Morgan that a defeat at Headingley is the trigger for calls for his head. It has been a dispiriting season though. Yet to win on another team's ground. 1 win against a team in the top half. Who is our most aggressive or explosively powerful forward (Mason was meant to fill that hole in fairness, I suppose)? Where is the wit and invention in the backs? Not that we had masses before, but we did have cohesion and focus as often as not.
I think Morgan remains the best option going forward - though rumours of him going off elsewhere are no longer such a panic-inducing prospect. He's right that when the going gets tough you have to have faith in your philosophies and approach. Being very inflexible makes a flaw of that virtue though - we need to adapt and evolve. I don't won't to see expansive, exciting rugby for its own sake - If I thought a conservative style would win more games (see 2009), I'd be happy to stick with it. I just can't see anymore what fans of other teams would be concerned by when they look at our teamsheet. We are the blandest thing on the menu.

well said mild rover but it has to be down to the coach and the players on this site i have read that such and such a player is playing well why did he not play the players in form give the kids a chance when dobo was injured why did he not try bell we will not know if he is good enouth till we try him like i said its time to go Justin

I have no input to this thread but it's the only one active.

I like him.

Does a good job at the Eagles, but the next step, I hardly think so. In truth there's no one who springs to mind.

Agree.

Matt cook was THE form player and was then dropped or (rotated). Murrell on the other hand only has to make a decent tackle or jump in the air as a teammate forces a knock-on and he's a shoe-in. Remarkable.

Because we are the penrith of the superleague when it comes to decent aussie coaches. Dont want another to be honest but if Kear was a prospect then I wouldnt turn my nose up. Morgan has too much of a cosy team, if certain people are fit they play.

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I'll raise you, James Webster.

Il raise u Stanley

Blimey surly if it comes to it their is a decent coach out their lets hope so

I think a few players necks should be on the blocks to go before Morgans,we all know of the few that are gonna be leaving and to be honest I think prob hudgell and Morgan have realised that spending the full cap on our team hasn't benefited us in any way, I think once webbo and Clinton go this season we won't fill them quota spots, the only ones I would keep is galea and Dobbo, green that's if Dobbo re signs although I feel he has been playing pretty poor of late, so maybe that's a sign of were his heart lies I don't know, to me green has been more instrumental this season.

Why's that then??

Because they've been rubbish?

Clinton has an option for another year, though I'd not be astonished if he didn't take it. Webster signed a new 2-year deal last summer, so I assume he'll still be here.

The big spend gave the team a big shot in the arm. The prevailing winds are changing, but a couple of tilts at the play-offs were 1. Fun and 2. Re-established HKR as a 'real' top-flight club.

Yet Morgan selects the team, the tactics and the game plan. He also recruited these 'rubbish' players.

The buck stops with the coach imo.

I was not asked to.

Can't argue with any of that. There's only 1 player left at the club that was here when JM arrived, so the entire squad has been brought his with his blessing. He has a full support staff, all of which he brought in. The board back him to the hilt wages wise, so he is quickly running out of room to hide. His reluctance to drop certain players who are clearly out of form is a real problem, and a blind spot he doesn't appear willing to recognise. His tactics have bored me this season, and to a certain extent, last year as well.

The players have, at times appeared to lack motivation. Who is supposed to provide this? All questions lead to the same answer. I personally think, based on the limited interviews he does these days, that he's almost had enough, and is ready to go at the end of this year. As things stand, I'm really not bothered if he does.

They have a contract when it expires you either renew or not. It is the way most jobs are now including mine, but I would be a tad upset if some idiot who knows squat about my job started asking for me to be sacked.Sports man or shop worker, managing director or cleaner makes no diference, If the club signs a poor manager or player it is not the players fault,contracts of employment should be honoured.

Sorry I disagrre.
This is Morgans team (His players apart from one), It is his 1 man safety first rugby that is SOOO easy to counter, It is him that clearly has favourites that are undroppable and it his his defensice structure that i'snt good enough, Infact I could be wrong but even in 09 when we finished 4th our defense was far from great (Has it ever been top notch in SL?) so the buck stops at him.
As someone else has said he will struggle to find a place to hide as this team is his and no one elses.
My major worry is when stories appear (Taken with a pinch of salt) that the likes of Liam Watts has been told to go away and work on his meter making and to stop offloading (The best part if his game IMHO).
Tells you all you need to know if true.

Tbf, when we finished 4th we had the 4th lowest points against tally.

It's not his team selections that worry me so much. I can see there's a decent argument for Cook ahead of Netherton, for example, but realistically it wouldn't make a dramatic difference. Building pressure through a safety first approach with ball in hand, strong defence and good kick chase was successful but limited. Brown used it as a foundation at Hudds - we seemed content to rely almost solely on doing the basics well. And now we don't very often, so we're plop.



In mitigation... Mason would potentially, if it had worked out, have stiffened up our slightly flaccid pack. Our once excellent back three have to varying degrees lost their mojos. Dobson and Newton have been out for extended spells. It's one bad season - the important thing is that lessons are learned.

Cos sum of them have been garbage and if they don't wanna play for the club get rid I say

That's fair enuf but it's the players that arnt consistent week in week out, one week play good next week play poop is that Morgans fault to, he picked the same team who beat hull the week before so u tell me why it was Morgans fault we got thrashed by Leeds, he can talk to em tell em to stick to game plans if they divert away from that then that's not morgans fault is it.

Really my mind must be going.
I always seem to remeber that we defsivly looked in the wrong place.
Well if i'm wrong i'm wrong so i'll hold my hands up.