Might make the home game with Wire

That's ok then, he's only received 3 months wages for doing nowt, not 5.

At least that is the exception rather than the norm at Rovers.

Good work.

So Crocker wasn't the exception at Hull?

In terms of not arriving, yes. In terms of 'doing nowt'...

Well if you put it like that I can see where you're coming from lol

Long, Horne, Dykes, Calderwood....Need I go on?

Not so sure it is an exception, you paid Cookie for sitting in the stands for long periods.

I think its unfair to compare players who are injured through no fault of their own with players who aren't pulling their weight.

I think we've had our money's worth out of Richard Horne in the last 10 years.

Lets face it you've also had a few who've taken the money without delivering the goods - Michael Smith, Garret Crossman, David Mills to name three.

I see so you are now saying that is Mason's fault that the UKBA are dragging their heels are you?

Think thats harsh. Smith was very good for Rovers abeit at a lower level of the game. In Crossmans season with Rovers he played every game other than one. Not a world beater by any stretch but clearly did enough to keep his place. In the same season Mills was an ever present. Lets skip past 2009 and 2010 with him.

Be fair though, those 3 are the only 3 who Morgan "got wrong" if you like.
I think morgan's recruitment outside these 3 has been top class.

Played 65 times in a little under 3 seasons (according to Wiki, at least). Had the odd quiet game, along the way like



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Right it was probably me that de-railed it, but... Willie Mason, not here, being paid, gonna be [iBRILLIANT[/i

Impressive

Er......no



How do you come to that conclusion?

We were talking about Willie Mason not being here.
I mentioned injured players not playing for you as a comparison the the dig about Mason getting payed but not playing and you said this.
So tell me how else to take it?

I was responding to your post at 5.44pm in which you implied that Long, Horne, Dykes and Calderwood were being paid for doing nothing.

I said it was not their fault they were injured. There is a difference between injured players and underperforming players.

For the record I do not think its Mason's fault that his visa has not come through. In fact I think the UKBA's treatment of RL players' visa applications is a disgrace.



Clear enough for you?

Yes that is fine we agree that Mason is as helpless as injured players are in that they are unable to play even though it isn't their fault although it was you that started being clever with this.

So which is it?

WormInHand said Rovers had been paying Mason since Octoberish. Philb said since December. Thats 3 months rather than 5. Its not Mason's fault; its down to either Rovers or UKBA. Take your pick.

You have already said yourself that it's down to UKBA's shoddy treatment of RL players.
So taking that as read what is the diffrence between a player who is getting shaffed by the UKBA or a player who gets injured.
Neither wanted it to happen, Both would much rather be playing RL.
Yet you see fit to say that one is getting paid for nowt whilst the other isn't and is infact unlucky I guess
You can't have it both ways.

Philb's timescales are probably right. But the crucial point is that Mason[i should[/i have been paid since December. And his signing-on fee, too.

It now appears that the decision on his visa should have been made in early January, according to the Fijian (who process the Tongan applications) timescales.

So the visa has either been refused, or......

hic - double post

I can because thats not what I said. I was differentiating between injured players and underperforming players, not between injured players and those awaiting a visa.

Not right at the start with your cheap dig you wern't.