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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The extras have got to be pretty significant. Now the cap's gone up in Aus, I struggle to believe that Mason would come here for £110k. Newton, Dobson, Clinton, Webster, (plus Berro, Fitz, O'Meley, Long
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Do you base your extras quote on facts, inside knowledge, alternative media scources or just your usual bull.
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| Putting the salary thing to one side, Mason would be an excellent signing for any side in SL imo.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Do you base your extras quote on facts, inside knowledge, alternative media scources or just your usual bull.
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| Quote ="red al"my money's on option 4 bert.
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So you think players only receive a flat basic salary?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The extras have got to be pretty significant. Now the cap's gone up in Aus, I struggle to believe that Mason would come here for £110k. Newton, Dobson, Clinton, Webster, (plus Berro, Fitz, O'Meley, Long
), all supposedly on more than that and regardless of Mild Rover's discrediting at The Daily Telegraph as a "source", less than half of what Orford is supposed to be getting.'"
I very much doubt all the Rovers players you list are on excess of 110K. Take Webster as an example. It was widely reported he signed for 100K p.a in 2007. I doubt, given his stock has gone down since then, that he got a pay rise to re-sign. More likely to have taken a cut.
Mason is on peanuts at the Cowboys (alledgedly!). All this guff is him and his agent trying to get them to up his contract for 2011. I doubt this story has any credence outside the mind of the HDM Rovers correspondent.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"
Mason is on peanuts at the Cowboys (alledgedly!). '"
Peanuts in Oz vs Peanuts in UK. Whats the exchange rate?
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| There's no need for Rovers fans to worry about what Mason would or would not earn if he signs.
We are near the top end of the cap now and we will be again next season, with or without Willie Mason.
Blake Green plus Willie Mason would not cost a great deal more than Paul Cooke plus Chev Walker who will both be absent from next seasons payroll.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"I very much doubt all the Rovers players you list are on excess of 110K. Take Webster as an example. It was widely reported he signed for 100K p.a in 2007. I doubt, given his stock has gone down since then, that he got a pay rise to re-sign. More likely to have taken a cut.
Mason is on peanuts at the Cowboys (alledgedly!). All this guff is him and his agent trying to get them to up his contract for 2011. I doubt this story has any credence outside the mind of the HDM Rovers correspondent.
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Fair enough. The thing is with the HDM is they describe every senior player at both clubs as on a flat £100k, and I doubt somehow that's the case. I still think Mason will come to England and probably to Rovers, and will be a very good signing.
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| i dont think he will come and i dont want him, he could be playing games with the alledged three clubs despite todays hdm report but we see next week
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| Quote ="rednwhite"i dont think he will come and i dont want him, he could be playing games with the alledged three clubs despite todays hdm report but we see next week'"
why dont you want him? (in the interest of debate)
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| Quote ="cab man"YES MY FRIEND BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT MASON A MASON THAT WILL STRIKE FEAR INTO HIS SUPER LEAGUE OPPONENTS ON DONNING THE RED AND WHITE OF THE MIGHTY HULL KINGSTON ROVERS WE HAVE HAD MANY FAMOUS GREATS CLINT NEWTON, GAVIN MILLER, JOHN DORAHY, MARK BROADHURST, GARY PROHM ARTIE BEETSON. BUT SIGN THIS MAN AND I WILL PUT MY REPUTATION ON THE LINE THAT HE WILL BECOME THE GREATEST OF ALL.'"
Is this the same Mason that Peacock flattened?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"why dont you want him? (in the interest of debate)'"
hi because basically mason is trouble he has a very poor disciplinary record in nrl and he has caused alleged trouble in dressing room, and hes past it ie not the player he was. impo
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| Impo? He's impotent? Hmm...Probably a good thing.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"why dont you want him? (in the interest of debate)'"
Just to add to the reply mate, I personally don't want to see him at the club because it sounds in the media like he's already trying to call all the shot, protect his own interests etc, and IMO we don't need someone with his explosive reputation and ego at the club. Along with the wages and 'extras', how bad would training ground bust-ups, dummy spits etc be for morale, + there's the inevitable suspensions, possible off-field problems etc.
Praying that we stay clear of him because IMO at 30 years old he's just not worth the hassle.
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| Quote ="Roofs"Just to add to the reply mate, I personally don't want to see him at the club because it sounds in the media like he's already trying to call all the shot, protect his own interests etc, and IMO we don't need someone with his explosive reputation and ego at the club. Along with the wages and 'extras', how bad would training ground bust-ups, dummy spits etc be for morale, + there's the inevitable suspensions, possible off-field problems etc.
Praying that we stay clear of him because IMO at 30 years old he's just not worth the hassle.'"
Bang on Roofington.
Just out of interest, do you have to do a night shift at The Samaritans? Which is a great charity, wish I'd got your commitment.
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| Quote ="Roofs"Just to add to the reply mate, I personally don't want to see him at the club because it sounds in the media like he's already trying to call all the shot, protect his own interests etc, and IMO we don't need someone with his explosive reputation and ego at the club. Along with the wages and 'extras', how bad would training ground bust-ups, dummy spits etc be for morale, + there's the inevitable suspensions, possible off-field problems etc.
Praying that we stay clear of him because IMO at 30 years old he's just not worth the hassle.'"
To me though, the biggest potential flashpoint is not the money or the extras or the training ground bust-ups. What if his ego is so big he insists on running out last on matchday?
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| Quote ="pmh"Bang on Roofington.
Just out of interest, do you have to do a night shift at The Samaritans? Which is a great charity, wish I'd got your commitment.'"
Hey if we do sign him I hope I'm wrong mate - I hope he works for us with the same attitude and committment as many of his fellow countrymen have at Rovers the last few years, but to me it just seems quite a risk.
Yeah, but usually only every 6 weeks. You do a regular shift (e.g. a 7pm-10pm shift every alternate Monday say), then a 10pm-2am or 2am-7am every 6 weeks. They also ask that you do a Sunday shift (usually morning or afternoon) every 3 months, but this is flexible i.e. you can pick a Sunday & time that suits. Been there nearly 2 years now, it's challenging at times but is definitely the most rewarding work have ever done.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"To me though, the biggest potential flashpoint is not the money or the extras or the training ground bust-ups. What if his ego is so big he insists on running out last on matchday?
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Sorry thats reserved for ''Mr Hull KR'' himself
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| imo would be a good signing on a 1 year deal then see how he goes,but 3 years when he will be 31 when he gets here? will cert put bums on seats,and short term could be very very good,long term not so sure,
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| Putting it simply it boils down to this.
Pro's
Massive kudos for any club that signs him
If he gets his head right a massive capture/ meter maker/ forward for any SL club.
A possible big draw for extra pass sales.
Con's
Can be problems in the dressing room.
If his head is wrong a possible liability.
Looking at it from that point of view I find it hard to come down on any one side of the arguement.
He could be massive he could be a royal pain its 50/50 either way.
All I will say is that even been talked about in these terms thinking back just 5 years give me butterflies TBH.
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Yeah, but usually only every 6 weeks. You do a regular shift (e.g. a 7pm-10pm shift every alternate Monday say), then a 10pm-2am or 2am-7am every 6 weeks. They also ask that you do a Sunday shift (usually morning or afternoon) every 3 months, but this is flexible i.e. you can pick a Sunday & time that suits. Been there nearly 2 years now, it's challenging at times but is definitely the most rewarding work have ever done.
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So pretty flexible then (apologies to other posters for going off topic) I've been thinking of getting involved for a while now, might explore a bit further.
BTW, I know you've been looking for Social Work things for a bit (iirc) if you fancy moving away from Hull I know that Leeds is crying out for Social Workers in Children's.
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