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| Quote ="very red robin"The one thing we are missing up front and have been for the last 2 seasons is a big nasty twit whos going to come off the bench and run over people -[u Fielden isnt that player and Mason is.[/u'"
If thats what you're expecting prepare yourself for a disappointment. Also as i understand it the 10 interchange rule is coming in next season so impact players will be a little bit of a luxury.
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| Quote ="overthemoon"You seem to fit the bill
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With your amazing ability to p*ss the Cas fans off like you have, without 1 ounce of RL debate, id just shut your mouth because you really are anoyying and pointless.
School holidays not over yet!
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| Quote ="very red robin"Were as i see it as; it looks like there trying to improve there team and progress up the league and that would make me interested in playing for them.
Lets be honest the players we've declared interest in havent been poor players.
What you see and desperate i see as progress. Mason or Fielden, hmmmmmmm hard choice.'"
Back to school for you son, Sort your grammar please.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"If thats what you're expecting prepare yourself for a disappointment. Also as i understand it the 10 interchange rule is coming in next season so impact players will be a little bit of a luxury.'"
Im expecting that because thats what we lack.... and a 6 if scottys not going to do the job.
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| Quote ="very red robin"The one thing we are missing up front and have been for the last 2 seasons is a big nasty twit whos going to come off the bench and run over people - Fielden isnt that player and Mason is.'"
I agree with you there they are 2 totally different players now, fielden has become a good (but not great) workhorse prop, whilst mason has been playing second row a lot this year but he still has more of an impact which is more like we need. It would be a risk as he's clearly not the player he was but I've got to say I'm very sceptical we'll sign him though for the same reason mentioned before, his name always crops up when he's looking for a new deal down under looks like he's trying to push up his wage deal to me
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| Quote ="very red robin"[uIm expecting that because thats what we lack[/u.... and a 6 if scottys not going to do the job.'"
Mason ain't your man then. 5/6 years ago maybe, but deffo not now.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Mason ain't your man then. 5/6 years ago maybe, but deffo not now.'"
Then why would you suggest we are looking at bringing him in?
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| Quote ="very red robin"Then why would you suggest we are looking at bringing him in?'"
I have no idea why or even if Rovers want to bring him in, but whilst he is not the player he once was he is clearly still a big name player.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I have no idea why or even if Rovers want to bring him in, but whilst he is not the player he once was he is clearly still a big name player.'"
I thought the quote was "we have had a conversation with him" or something along those lines.
Which suggests we are looking at him for 2011 - i agree it maybe about bums on seats but unless hes going to come in and knock people on there bums then i dont want him.
Would rather see Feka if thats the case.
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| Quote ="very red robin"I thought the quote was "we have had a conversation with him" or something along those lines.
Which suggests we are looking at him for 2011 - i agree it maybe about bums on seats but unless hes going to come in and knock people on there bums then i dont want him.
Would rather see Feka if thats the case.'"
Feka and a quality 6 would be good business.
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| Quote ="very red robin"I thought the quote was "we have had a conversation with him" or something along those lines.
Which suggests we are looking at him for 2011 - i agree it maybe about bums on seats but unless hes going to come in and knock people on there bums then i dont want him.
Would rather see Feka if thats the case.'"
I agree Feka would be a better option but imho the days of the 10 minute impact prop are numbered. Speaking to a SL coach last week he told me that the interchange rules are changing from 12 to 10 next season. That could radically change the way props especially are rotated.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I agree Feka would be a better option but imho the days of the 10 minute impact prop are numbered. Speaking to a SL coach last week he told me that the interchange rules are changing from 12 to 10 next season. That could radically change the way props especially are rotated.'"
Which is why Lovegrove played a full half maybe.....
But we still lack someone with grunt, doesnt need too be massive but needs to take on the line and get out of tackles (Peacock, Graham, Omeley). Most teams have at least one or two - apart from moulding Watts into that player i cant see who else can do it, unless we bring someone in.
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| Quote ="cheeky charlie wrote"Back to school for you son, =#FF0000Sort your grammar please.
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Oh dear.
First picking people up on their grammar, how long until the threatening pm's start again?
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| Quote ="pmh"Oh dear.
First picking people up on their grammar, how long until the threatening pm's start again?'"
Id like to see him try PM
We all know its him so, especially after tarnishing our name on the Cas site.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I agree Feka would be a better option but imho the days of the 10 minute impact prop are numbered. Speaking to a SL coach last week he told me that the interchange rules are changing from 12 to 10 next season. That could radically change the way props especially are rotated.'"
He would definitely have to improve his fitness, especially when working the 10 in defence because we all know how devastating he can be running the ball. Does anyone remember the try he scored at CP last year when he took the first drive after a penalty close to our line and he must have run through at least 6 defenders, probably more.
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| Anyway, before I have to go see GML in his office again, back on topic.
Mason-No thanks, would only be coming for a holiday, would fall out with Morgan every week, be a disruptive influence and is an utter raasclart.
Fielden-Yes, has had a very good season at Wigan, but the noises seem to be that he'll almost certainly stay at The Piedome.
Paeliasina-Another no, can't play for long enough as a fatty and has been like Samson with a short back and sides since he slimmed down.
A top six is obviously a priority but after that I'd like to see us go for a barn storming South Sea Island type to play in the back row, someone with a bit of power and guile. Move Galea back to loose forward to give him as much free reign as possible.
Interesting stuff about the interchange Mr. Gekko I think that could have avery positive effect on the game.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Which is why Lovegrove played a full half maybe.....
But we still lack someone with grunt, doesnt need too be massive but needs to take on the line and get out of tackles (Peacock, Graham, Omeley). Most teams have at least one or two - apart from moulding Watts into that player i cant see who else can do it, unless we bring someone in.'"
There are very few props in world rugby who break the line.
I'd sooner have props who are good on technique, body position and quick ptb's than anything else. Having a prop like Watts who had a great pre-line pass and offload will offer better options for longer periods than an out and out impact prop. One of the reasons the likes of Peacok and Graham go through the line so often is they have players pushing with them offering options. Rovers props tend to go it alone and whilst they generally make good ground they often get dominated as the defence can get numbers into the tackle resulting in a slow ptb.
For me all this 'lacking grunt' is a false argument as there are better ways of attempting to be dominant up front than having a couple of big guys in the side for 10 mins or so.
Only my opinion mind
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"He would definitely have to improve his fitness, especially when working the 10 in defence because we all know how devastating he can be running the ball. [uDoes anyone remember the try he scored at CP last year when he took the first drive after a penalty close to our line [/uand he must have run through at least 6 defenders, probably more.'"
Think that was also a very good defensive spot by Wigan as he targetted Scott Murrell and Lovegrove iirc.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Areyou looking forward to playing saints for similar reasons?'"
I am sure there will be no love lost (apart from newtons bird) between Clint and Perry next season.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Why would he be encouraging him to come to there city rivals? dont understand this one me.'"
because its a living for them, while its a life long passion for us fans.
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| Quote ="very red robin"The one thing we are missing up front and have been for the last 2 seasons is a big nasty twit whos going to come off the bench and run over people - Fielden isnt that player and Mason is.'"
So you are looking for a prop to break tackles? There is only one prop in the SL top 20 tackle busters this season (he's 7th with 66). For more details see here, with comparison also to the MOS elect:
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=29&hs2=2010&hp2=1203&stat=tackle_busts&season=2010[/url
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So you are looking for a prop to break tackles? There is only one prop in the SL top 20 tackle busters this season (he's 7th with 66). For more details see here, with comparison also to the MOS elect:
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=29&hs2=2010&hp2=1203&stat=tackle_busts&season=2010[/url'"
So Stuart Fielden has broken 54 more tackles than Joel Clinton but with Joel having made 2 appearances less and 66 less carrys he's only made 297 less metres than fielden. Imagine what he'd do if he broke tackles
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