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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Many on this thread have missed the point IMO.=#FF0000 The question of them reaching the target is not the point but the ambition shown is what we need in super league. Awesome stuff.
Our chairman wants a 20,000 average attendance long term.
Personally I think with better facilities and more success Hull KR will be easily above 10,000 especially for big games.'"
Spot on , unless you set the target and reach out for it , you will not achieve it or anywhere near it , they may have to become a bit inovative to get there , but by stating the aim they are setting out their stall , no club SL or other can be happy where they are , all clubs must strive to fill whatever space they have , Rovers stadium isn't currently big enough to support a SL club , they have a plan to extend it and are doing so , it is good to see a stated ambition
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| Quote ="roversmad"Another one who cant differentiate between the total number of fans and the average'"
I am perfectly aware of the difference in total, mean, median and mode, thanks.
My point is that you do not have 9,000 passionate fans. Although everyone on RLFans is aware of the propensity for Rovers fans to exaggerate their support, of course.
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| One thing that may have bearing on the crowds for both of our clubs is that in this city the birth rate far exceeds the death rate and the city is also home to a number of immigrants so in 5 years time the population of the city will big bigger than it ever has, the key is to get youngsters introduced to the game early and also get people who didn’t know much about RL the chance to get to a game and then hopefully they will come back.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"A red and white mate of mine tells me that rovers are expecting to have a 14000 average attendance within 5 years. Has anyone else heard this and do you think it's realistic?
What is your highest average in your history?'"
Considering when the stadium is finally finished the capacity will only just be above 14,000 then it's not really possible.
Once the East Stand has been completed and the brand new £6m North Stand has been done, I'd like to see a brand new "away stand" at the South End with standing and seating areas to entice more fans to come to Craven Park.
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| I cant ever remember Rovers coming out with an official capacity figure TBH
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| Quote ="Kingston Rovers"Regardless of what stand and facilities any club has I go to support my team, dosnt matter about a crap view in an uncovered stand! Obviously 'in any kind of weather' dosnt apply to some of your lot! Good on them the loyal FC fans that did turn up by the way.
Price dosnt come into it either because when i'm paying £20 or less I don't care if I sit or stand wherever that may be.
The south stand will be sorted in time but at the moment its not a priority, the east stand being extended is as we know we have a chance of filling it and increase revenue. No point building a stand that is only going to be filled once a season if you decide to turn up.
Yes you could fill our ground no problem so why don't you try filling the south stand for a start and support your team!'"
Before you get on your high horse mate i was there anyway and will support my team to the ends of the earth.I was talking about supporters in general and you can't blame them for not turning up.If Rovers have DREAMS about getting 10,000 plus crowds,then i would say it was urgent to get the south terrace sorted out very soon to get extra revenue through the turnstiles.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Many on this thread have missed the point IMO. The question of them reaching the target is not the point but the ambition shown is what we need in super league. Awesome stuff.
Our chairman wants a 20,000 average attendance long term.
Personally I think with better facilities and more success Hull KR will be easily above 10,000 especially for big games.'"
Can't argue with that. I think KR should be aiming for 14,000, its a good thing for Rugby League in general. Not sure it will happen in the current statium though. All clubs however should be continualy looking to improve attendance, our aim should be 20k as well. It takes the right ingredients, right stadium, right atmosphere (i.e a entertaining, family friendly one) with the most potentant of all, stable success on the field.
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| Quote ="Starbug"They didn't say they would be , they said that is the target , [size=150surely the target for FC is to fill whatever capacity the KC [/sizeis'"
dont be stupid..even if fc dominated such as saints have for 5-10 years we wouldnt be averaging 24000....we would get in my opinion 16000 average....
i unlike many of your red friends live in the real world, and fc cannot drum up that level of support to fill the kc...just as kr cant drum up enopugh to fill 12-14000...
its a matter of fact...
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"I think you need to understand the concept of "average" before posting again!'"
Think you need to understand the concept of Reading before posting again.
14000 avarage attendance per week would mean that figure would have to be grately increased against the lesser supported sides.
Which is EXACTLY what I said.
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| Quote ="airlie074"Think you need to understand the concept of Reading before posting again.
14000 avarage attendance per week would mean that figure would have to be grately increased against the lesser supported sides.
Which is EXACTLY what I said.
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Think you need to understand the concept of it's only the busy-body FC fans who give a rats before posting again
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"dont be stupid..even if fc dominated such as saints have for 5-10 years we wouldnt be averaging 24000....we would get in my opinion 16000 average....
i unlike many of your red friends live in the real world, and fc cannot drum up that level of support to fill the kc...just as kr cant drum up enopugh to fill 12-14000...
its a matter of =#FF0000:26pard9efact...[/
Thankfully you are not involved in the admin at either club then , quite simply no club should ever be satisfied until whatever stadium they are in is full every time they play in it , and when it is they then should be looking how to get a bigger one , there are no limits other than the ones you set yourself
Who would have thought that a TV programme having no marks singing or dancing on a saturday night would draw in millions of viewers and generate millions of pounds with people ringing in to vote for them ? , but it has happened , and makes the person who thought of the idea make tens of millions out of it
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| Quote ="airlie074"Think you need to understand the concept of Reading before posting again.
14000 avarage attendance per week would mean that figure would have to be grately increased against the lesser supported sides.
Which is EXACTLY what I said.
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No , to achieve a 14,000 average just means that you fill a 14,000 stadium every game
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Think you need to understand the concept of it's only the busy-body FC fans who give a rats before posting again
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Really I thought this was a public forum.Surely I dont have to join Club Rovers to post an opinion.
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| Quote ="Starbug"No , to achieve a 14,000 average just means that you fill a 14,000 stadium every game'"
Does it ?
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| Quote ="airlie074"Really I thought this was a public forum.Surely I dont have to join Club Rovers to post an opinion.
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Your £50 donation for a spot on the South Terracing will be noted!
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| Quote ="Starbug"No , to achieve a 14,000 average just means that you fill a 14,000 stadium every game'"
I thought an average was the amount of attendances over the season, divided by the number of games.
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| Quote ="airlie074"Think you need to understand the concept of Reading before posting again.
14000 avarage attendance per week would mean that figure would have to be grately increased against the lesser supported sides.
Which is EXACTLY what I said.
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Quote airlie074 wrote:Not heard this one,and find it a tad optimistic.Rovers have done well in recent years building up the following from what it was.However I think it has just about topped out.Even in the Glory years 70's 80's they only avaraged around the 8000 mark,and last season even with the success they achieved they failed to sell the ground out.[uRemember to achieve a 14000 avarage you will have to be getting 14000 fans every game and to make up for the attendances against the lesser supported sides[/u.This figure would have to be grately increased.
Unless they extend the ground again,this is not only unlikely,it would not be possible.'"
And my (extremely valid) point is that you do not need 14000 every game to achieve a 14000 average. In 2007 FC acheived a 14000 average but not every game attracted that many fans.
So, not only do you not understand the basic mathematic concept of mean/average, you can't articulate what you mean either. I don't know why I am surprised at either point.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"You said:
And my (extremely valid) point is that you do not need 14000 every game to achieve a 14000 average. In 2007 FC acheived a 14000 average but not every game attracted that many fans.
So, not only do you not understand the basic mathematic concept of mean/average, you can't articulate what you mean either. I don't know why I am surprised at either point.'"
But if the capacity is 14,000, you have to get a full house every week, ie 14,000, as there is no scope for getting any more to offset any sub-14,000 attendances.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"But if the capacity is 14,000, you have to get a full house every week, ie 14,000, as there is no scope for getting any more to offset any sub-14,000 attendances.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"But if the capacity is 14,000, you have to get a full house every week, ie 14,000, as there is no scope for getting any more to offset any sub-14,000 attendances.
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That's very true, but also not the point. I wasn't discussing Rovers capacity plans or indeed the perceived future averages. I was merely pointing out obvious flaws in the posters logic.
Rovers will do well to get the capacity up to 14,000 over the next few years. I don't expect them to acheive an average gate above 11,000 even when that capacity is realised.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Before you get on your high horse mate i was there anyway and will support my team to the ends of the earth.I was talking about supporters in general and you can't blame them for not turning up.If Rovers have DREAMS about getting 10,000 plus crowds,then i would say it was urgent to get the south terrace sorted out very soon to get extra revenue through the turnstiles.
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So which part of my post did u actually read and understand?
Regardless of what stand and facilities any club has I go to support my team, dosnt matter about a crap view in an uncovered stand! Obviously 'in any kind of weather' dosnt apply to some of your lot! =#BF0000Good on them the loyal FC fans that did turn up by the way.
Price dosnt come into it either because when i'm paying £20 or less I don't care if I sit or stand wherever that may be.
=#FF0000The south stand will be sorted in time but at the moment its not a priority, the east stand being extended is as we know we have a chance of filling it and increase revenue. No point building a stand that is only going to be filled once a season if you decide to turn up.
Yes you could fill our ground no problem so why don't you try filling the south stand for a start and support your team!
The supporters in general you speak of who don't turn up have a choice but please dont make up excuses for them, views and facilities are good at some grounds bad at others, i go regardless as you maybe do, your lot filled the stand the first two seasons and last season made the excuse it was expensive for the crap view but in reality they expected a beating. I know its a crap view i've stood in there but i was there for my team as you were.
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| Quote ="Kingston Rovers"So which part of my post did u actually read and understand?
Regardless of what stand and facilities any club has I go to support my team, dosnt matter about a crap view in an uncovered stand! Obviously 'in any kind of weather' dosnt apply to some of your lot! =#BF0000Good on them the loyal FC fans that did turn up by the way.
Price dosnt come into it either because when i'm paying £20 or less I don't care if I sit or stand wherever that may be.
=#FF0000The south stand will be sorted in time but at the moment its not a priority, the east stand being extended is as we know we have a chance of filling it and increase revenue. No point building a stand that is only going to be filled once a season if you decide to turn up.
Yes you could fill our ground no problem so why don't you try filling the south stand for a start and support your team!
The supporters in general you speak of who don't turn up have a choice but please dont make up excuses for them, views and facilities are good at some grounds bad at others, i go regardless as you maybe do, your lot filled the stand the first two seasons and last season made the excuse it was expensive for the crap view but in reality they expected a beating. I know its a crap view i've stood in there but i was there for my team as you were.'"
Maybe you should of stood there the other year when hailstones where the size of golf balls hitting us at 80 mph.I have never been so cold in my life.When i go to a ground i expect to watch a game.If you cannot see the game where is the value in that?.Leeds,wakefield,even Bradford is not a problem because you can still see what is happening.All i am saying is that Rovers have to look after the away fans,especially Hull,which is your top revenue earner,otherwise supporters will vote with their feet.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I thought an average was the amount of attendances over the season, divided by the number of games.'"
Yes it is , so if you have a 14,000 capacity , you play 10 games you get 140,000 fans through the gates , divided by 10 gives 14,000
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