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| Quote ="gingerspice"No your right at the moment ours is not good but the buck stops with the players, they are on the pitch not Morgan although i don't know what he said at his half time talk cos they never came out motivated, we are just a bit unlucky with injuries at the minute, we had this lull last season, the players will turn it round its just when.'"
I accept morgan doesn't tell the players to drop the ball,make bad passes and decisions but the fact of the matter is that the tactics and defensive pattern are his responsabilty as well as the make up of the squad,our backs offer no deep threat except for craig hall and he probably will get dropped to make way for webster next week and our captain goes down quicker in tackle than a lady of the night in amsterdam.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Ranga - you sure Webbos back....?
Knee jerk reaction is an understatement GM, to be calling for morgs head is beyond belief and i cant explain why anyone but bitter hull fans would suggest it.
So someone thats a HKR that isnt thinking we should replace him please explain why, and who youd realisticly like to come in....'"
Why is Webbo not back he only got a 2 match ban
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| Quote ="gingerspice" Oh and the ref [in the black and white oufit was total cr@p '"
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Why is Webbo not back he only got a 2 match ban'"
Who's your kicker if Morgan drops Hall?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Its a squad game. If players get injured you bring in a replacement. Bell should have been in last week after all he is a scrum half. Morgan obviously doesnt believe in our reverses as much as he says. Look at last year, we lost webster and welham and went to wigan for a 19 year old. Dont we have any?'"
Thats true i want to see this Bell been given a chance he is unkown and young and sumet to prove, obviously we dont have the players who morgan thinks is up to it, he doesnt like throwing them in too young but i wud say what have we got to lose at the minute.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Who's your kicker if Morgan drops Hall?'"
Why would he need to drop hall, why cant hall play on the wing and webbo centre, sorry but i would be dropping fox, 3 tries went begging for him to day, whats he do knocks on, i know hs confidence is a little low at the minute or his bloody shorts are to tight its stopping him running, well no i take that back he does run but side ways when did Morgan introduce bloody crab training, i like Foxy and he can be a game winner as you well know from the last two derbies u no going head to head with Brisco
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Who's your kicker if Morgan drops Hall?'"
Murrell, Welham, Green ?
Hall only kicked 1/3 today the 3rd of which i felt he should of converted.
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| Calta - why would our coach want to show all his frustation; that doesnt make sense. Theres 2 type of coaches and he isnt the type to rant and rave on the sidelines so that wont happen.
Coyleahkr - can you explain whats wrong with Morgs defensive pattern please as it looked to be working great in pre-season so its obviously something different to that.
IMO its down to the 17 players to kick each other up the jacksy and turn things round. 20 minutes left and only just behind and we let them run at us from then own 10mtr and get into our 40 within 4 tackles - last season we would run like a bull and meet the play; now we stand off like were scared to go in hard and commit.
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| Quote ="barton baird"icon_wink.gif'"
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| Kn Quote ="very red robin"Ranga - you sure Webbos back....?
knee jerk reaction is an understatement GM, to be calling for morgs head is beyond belief and i cant explain why anyone but bitter hull fans would suggest it.
So someone thats a HKR that isnt thinking we should replace him please explain why, and who youd realisticly like to come in....'"
Even if we had Superman himself coaching the team, there would still be some so called supporters on this board calling for the Kryptonite treatment to be administered after 3 or 4 losses, unbelievable!!.
Some people just seem incapable of seeing the bigger picture.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Thats true i want to see this Bell been given a chance he is unkown and young and sumet to prove, obviously we dont have the players who morgan thinks is up to it, he doesnt like throwing them in too young but i wud say what have we got to lose at the minute.'"
Cas had a 17 year old hooker,how old was tompkins when he came on against rovers for phelps,probably around 18,if bell has got it he should given a go,he is old enough to vote,what are we waiting for give him a go and see if he can do it.
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| Quote ="coyleahkr"Cas had a 17 year old hooker,how old was tompkins when he came on against rovers for phelps,probably around 18,if bell has got it he should given a go,he is old enough to vote,what are we waiting for give him a go and see if he can do it.'"
It was Tim Smith he replaced in that game mate.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Thats true i want to see this Bell been given a chance he is unkown and young and sumet to prove, obviously we dont have the players who morgan thinks is up to it, [uhe doesnt like throwing them in too young [/ubut i wud say what have we got to lose at the minute.'"
Why? sometimes I think Morgan is more interested in his image and status then what is better for the team. He maybe thinks Id rather lose playing Murrell at scrumhalf because he's my player then losing with an unknown but proper scrumhalf, it would make me look daft. Bell was man of the match against halifax and should be given that chance.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Why? sometimes I think Morgan is more interested in his image and status then what is better for the team. He maybe thinks Id rather lose playing Murrell at scrumhalf because he's my player then losing with an unknown but proper scrumhalf, it would make me look daft. Bell was man of the match against halifax and should be given that chance.'"
A pre seasson game at Halifax is a mile away from the power and pace of a SL game.
Bell is a prospect but not ready yet IMO.
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| dont panic,your missing dobson and what team wouldnt miss their scrum half,especially one of dobsons ability.
be thankful you havent had the trouble with scrum halves weve had over the past few seasons.
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| Agreed GM.
Your all raving about Bell (yes he could be great) yet he hasnt set the reserves on fire in the 1st 2 games theyve had as he?
If he has a cracking game for the reserves then yes id say give him a chance and see how he goes; the fact is when theyve played 2 games and let in 100 points with a reply of 6 why should any of them deserve the chance in the 1st 17 on matchday?
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"A pre seasson game at Halifax is a mile away from the power and pace of a SL game.
Bell is a prospect but not ready yet IMO.'"
But I bet £1000 if we had won the challange cup or been more successful in the playoffs bell would have played last week. Morgan is too tight at the moment and will only loosen up if he wins something, which is playing against him. Forget targets and play people in their positions, what if Dobson breaks down in his first game back? Bell could have 10 games under his belt and problem solved.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Agreed GM.
Your all raving about Bell (yes he could be great) yet he hasnt set the reserves on fire in the 1st 2 games theyve had as he?
If he has a cracking game for the reserves then yes id say give him a chance and see how he goes; the fact is when theyve played 2 games and let in 100 points with a reply of 6 why should any of them deserve the chance in the 1st 17 on matchday?'"
Then give him the 1st team to play with! they wont let in 50 a game. Nonsical argument.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Then give him the 1st team to play with! they wont let in 50 a game. Nonsical argument.'"
Hes got to prove his worth before he gets a shout in the 17 though! you dont bring someone in like that unless hes doing well which he isnt.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Hes got to prove his worth before he gets a shout in the 17 though! you dont bring someone in like that unless hes doing well which he isnt.'"
Murrell scrumhalf, played 2 lost 2.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Murrell scrumhalf, played 2 lost 2.'"
Murrell was Rovers best player today though amongst 17 of them.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Murrell was Rovers best player today though amongst 17 of them.'"
Could have been the difference at 13 if bell had played 7.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Hes got to prove his worth before he gets a shout in the 17 though! you dont bring someone in like that unless hes doing well which he isnt.'"
Im not qualified to comment on his performances as i havn't personaly seen him play in the reserves, however, a couple of friends who have, say that he has been playing behind a well beaten pack which to be fair makes a great deal of difference, even Dobson has looked innefective at times in the past when our first team pack have underperformed.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Murrell was Rovers best player today though amongst 17 of them.'"
I get it, I like murrell he's an honest 100% player but if you dont blood the young ones in proper positions and they see players playing out of position what message are we sending? look at my post about charnley.
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| Just got back a bit ago.
There were no significant fundamental problems with Rovers' defence or attack and with the fair share of possession in the first half, Rovers were comfortably the better side.
The second half was a continuation of the theme of our opening games and that is one of unforced errors resulting in defending our own line for too often to do anything well when the team do eventually get their hands on the ball.
So rather than being concerned about specific aspects of attack and defense, the bigger concern to me is why our games seem to be following this trend but I've no doubt that as soon as Rovers cut out there errors to a moderate level you'd expect from most sides, then this team will show what quality there is in it.
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