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| Quote ="Vicenzo"It is use of, or the threatening of violence so you are totally wrong anyway, but when has that stopped people on here!'"
England footballer Steven Gerrard looked relieved yesterday after [uassault[/u charges against him were dropped. The £120,000-a-week Liverpool captain puffed out his cheeks as he left a court hearing over an alleged bar brawl which left a businessman injured.
Gerrard, 28, is still accused of [uaffray[/u
So you are still maintaining the two cases are comparable in severity, then?
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| If anybody sticks up for him or say he shouldn't be banned by the RFL then your idiots
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| Quote ="dennison15"If anybody sticks up for him or say he shouldn't be banned by the RFL then your idiots'"
Your silence when Raynor was convicted of Racial aggravated assault speaks wonders.
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| Sickening behaviour the RL should take action without hesitation. No room for that behaviour in our family sport. The judge who failed to imprison both of the individuals should be stood down with immediate effect. Well done to Cas for acting so swiftly in sacking the other coward.
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| Quote ="Big Spender"Your silence when Raynor was convicted of Racial aggravated assault speaks wonders.'"
And your loud condemnation of Cockayne's actions is still ringing in our ears. Or maybe I missed it and you said "not the first and won't be the last" in a slightly shoulder-shrugging way.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"When is the announcement going to be made by the club? They knew on Monday that sentencing was Thursday, so presumably would have prepared something for both potential outcomes (ie custodial or otherwise).'"
They made a statement after the game this Evening
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"They made a statement after the game this Evening'"
Is it available to view anywhere. If not could you summarise it please ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Is it available to view anywhere. If not could you summarise it please ?'"
Hull KR's board of directors will be meeting next week, in advance of the club's meeting with Ben Cockayne, to discuss any further action or sanctions against Ben
As previously stated, the club view both Ben's behaviour and the sentance passed by the courts seriously.In particular the club will be giving careful consideration to the comments passed by the honourable judge in sentancing Ben
Any decisions that are made must follow due process
There will be no further comment from the club or player
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Hull KR's board of directors will be meeting next week, in advance of the club's meeting with Ben Cockayne, to discuss any further action or sanctions against Ben
As previously stated, the club view both Ben's behaviour and the sentance passed by the courts seriously.In particular the club will be giving careful consideration to the comments passed by the honourable judge in sentancing Ben
Any decisions that are made must follow due process
There will be no further comment from the club or player'"
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Hull KR's board of directors will be meeting next week, in advance of the club's meeting with Ben Cockayne, to discuss any further action or sanctions against Ben
As previously stated, the club view both Ben's behaviour and the sentance passed by the courts seriously.In particular the club will be giving careful consideration to the comments passed by the honourable judge in sentancing Ben
Any decisions that are made must follow due process
There will be no further comment from the club or player'"
Seems like a sensible response from Rovers, unlike some posters on here. Thought the statement yesterday from the club was a little wooly and this is much more substantial and informative.
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| whens raynor up for assault and racial abuse?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Seems like a sensible response from Rovers, unlike some posters on here. Thought the statement yesterday from the club was a little wooly and this is much more substantial and informative.'"
What, saying they're having a meeting amongst themselves before a meeting with Cockayne? As opposed to yesterday's statement that said they were having a meeting with Cockayne? He pleaded guilty last July and there were only really 2 outcomes from a sentencing perspective, jail or no jail. Not that difficult to plan for 2 possible eventualities is it, especially when you've got 8 months to do so?
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| Quote ="redandy"whens raynor up for assault and racial abuse?'"
Been done and dusted oh 6 fingered one.
However. Uncle Ben is renowned round Normy as being apt to the first 4 letters of his surname.
How he's got away with that can only add more fuel to the joke of a justice system we have.;
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| I just watched it , he belongs in a zoo. Im a Hull fan but dont care who he plays for, if anyone else does anything comparable to this then I'd say the same. He should never play again... end off.
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| A few points from me:
1) I'm absolutely disgusted at Ben Cockayne.
2) Some of my fellow Rovers fans with their pathetic efforts of playing down the offence (in one way or another) by writing such trype as "my daughter says she sees fights like that in the playground" are absolutely deplorable.
3) It's noticable that the FC fans who want convict Crocker in the country have a different opinion in this case regardless of knowing the full facts of either case.
3) I would support an RFL rule to take action against thugs in the future from a certain date, though not retrospectively because all punishment should be consistent.
4) From a club point of view, I don't see why Rovers should take the morale high-ground when no other club has so far and in another case, another club actually gave character references despite the player concerned being a repeat offender (i.e. Raynor).
5) Castleford Tigers stance of sacking their young player is hypocriticial considering they had agreed terms with Cockayne before Rovers upped their offer.
If Rovers sack Cockayne then fair play to them. If they don't then fair play to them. I'm just really miffed about the whole episode itself and certain types of responses from both Rovers and Hull fans.
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| I can see your point.
However.
Can you not see our reason for glee?
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| Quote ="General Zod."A few points from me:
1) I'm absolutely disgusted at Ben Cockayne.
2) Some of my fellow Rovers fans with their pathetic efforts of playing down the offence (in one way or another) by writing such trype as "my daughter says she sees fights like that in the playground" are absolutely deplorable.
3) It's noticable that the FC fans who want convict Crocker in the country have a different opinion in this case regardless of knowing the full facts of either case.
3) I would support an RFL rule to take action against thugs in the future from a certain date, though not retrospectively because all punishment should be consistent.
4) From a club point of view, I don't see why Rovers should take the morale high-ground when no other club has so far and in another case, another club actually gave character references despite the player concerned being a repeat offender (i.e. Raynor).
5) Castleford Tigers stance of sacking their young player is hypocriticial considering they had agreed terms with Cockayne before Rovers upped their offer.
If Rovers sack Cockayne then fair play to them. If they don't then fair play to them. I'm just really miffed about the whole episode itself and certain types of responses from both Rovers and Hull fans.'"
So are you saying my daughter's lying or is it deplorable that I posted it? This was her honest response on viewing the cctv footage.
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| Quote ="denbo63"I can see your point.
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Can you not see our reason for glee?'"
Says it all really "glee" no sympathy for the lad who was attacked just a reason to have a go at our club,shame on you
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| Quote ="kitche"Says it all really "glee" no sympathy for the lad who was attacked just a reason to have a go at our club,shame on you
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But their tiny minds are easily amused
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| Quote ="kitche"Says it all really "glee" no sympathy for the lad who was attacked just a reason to have a go at our club,shame on you
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I've every sympathy with the defenceless lad.
But yes you are right.
Bunch of c**ts!
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| Quote ="RoversTrace"So are you saying my daughter's lying?'"
No.
Quote ="RoversTrace"Or is it deplorable that I posted it?'"
Yes.
When evidence on show like this, I think it's every RL fan's responsibility to take a step back and try to be as objective as possible regardless of sentiment or the player concerned.
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| Quote ="roversmad"But their tiny minds are easily amused
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| Quote ="General Zod."A few points from me:
1) I'm absolutely disgusted at Ben Cockayne.
2) Some of my fellow Rovers fans with their pathetic efforts of playing down the offence (in one way or another) by writing such trype as "my daughter says she sees fights like that in the playground" are absolutely deplorable.
3) It's noticable that the FC fans who want convict Crocker in the country have a different opinion in this case regardless of knowing the full facts of either case.
3) I would support an RFL rule to take action against thugs in the future from a certain date, though not retrospectively because all punishment should be consistent.
4) From a club point of view, I don't see why Rovers should take the morale high-ground when no other club has so far and in another case, another club actually gave character references despite the player concerned being a repeat offender (i.e. Raynor).
5) Castleford Tigers stance of sacking their young player is hypocriticial considering they had agreed terms with Cockayne before Rovers upped their offer.
If Rovers sack Cockayne then fair play to them. If they don't then fair play to them. I'm just really miffed about the whole episode itself and certain types of responses from both Rovers and Hull fans.'"
I agree with that 100% .
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| Quote ="denbo63"I can see your point.
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Can you not see our reason for glee?'"
Not at all, it's quite pathetic considering your club has a history or helping it's players evade prison sentences for violent offences and also trying to bring another thug in the country...
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| Quote ="General Zod."No.
Yes.
When evidence on show like this, I think it's every RL fan's responsibility to take a step back and try to be as objective as possible regardless of sentiment or the player concerned.'"
No sentiment, just looking at the bigger picture. That cctv footage shows a small part of what happened that night. The judge was privy to that, most of us weren't. I've said I don't condone what he did and he deserves punishment, the judge has handed him what he considers a suitable punishment, after long consideration. Time for everyone to move on now I think.
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