you have seen mcdonnel several times this season. I saw enough of him last year to not loose any sleep when he signed for fc. can be good, but has an equal ammount of bad games / plays.

But what you saw of him last season he was behind a terrible defence, at least that's the excuse Eden's being given.

we lost 8 or so games by 6 points or less last year.
when you have a two on one or one on one and the fullback pretty much lets the attack through instead of putting his body on the line shaun briscoe style it can be the difference in taking the two points or loosing them.

i don't claim eden is billy slater, i know shannon is certainley not. average at best.
put your sock away.

Love it put your sock away Shaun Brisco was one on his own absolutely put his body on the line even Sam Tompkins ain't a great tackler is he but grt in attack, I think Eden and McDonnell pretty much even in attack maybe McDonnell a tadge better in defense however Eden is still learning and will be a cracking full back

It more than definitely is the job of the full back to organise the defensive line, what doesn't help is having the leagues worst defensive patterns and a bunch of players too thick to follow a basic game plan.

Eden's about where I thought he'd be. He had an absolute horror of a game for Huddersfield at CP last season. He's good going forward (that style of carrying the ball aside, we noted it last week, terrible) but his positional play and reads leave an awful lot to be desired.

Briscoe is a bit of an anomaly in the modern game, one on one tackling isn't that valued, or expected any more, the ground is generally too firm and players have too much foot work.

I noticed a lot of Huddersfield fans thinking last season that Eden fancied himself a bit too much, well he needs to grow up and realise he's a young player with an awful lot to learn, he has to knuckle down and listen, someone could do with having a hard word with him. Our coach once turned a very very good winger into a bit better one, with such a reputation surely Eden should be a project that's easily managed.

I think you shud tell Eden

Strictly speaking, he'd have signed for a better club if he'd signed for Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Catalans, Leeds, Hull FC, Huddersfield, Wakefield or Bradford. Maybe even Salford.

When a team breaks through nine times out of ten they score, you say Briscoe put his body on the line but he rarely stopped tries. Mind, Shannon has put his body on the line a few times for us this year. Maybe it's a Sandercock thing, as none of your players seemed willing to put their bodies on the line last night either.

In your wildest dreams maybe

No, going by what I saw last season.

How many of those 6 did mcdonnell play in? So if the FB organises your defence and your defence was a lot better last season then what has changed full back wise since then?????

Honestly mate, you're convincing no one

Not trying to convince anyone just stating my opinion, or is there only you allowed to have one?

Now you're getting the hang of this frum

Could even turn into a frum frenzy.

I viewed this strand thinking it would be about the possible HKR team Vs Warrington this Sunday, it turned out to be a slagging off session between FC & KR fans.

Boring.

Did u expect anything else really

Well said Ginger

Regardless of who is in the team against Wire, they need to play basic RL and get their heads up, Complete the sets and kick deep, i know its easy to say but with Dobbo and Burns now playing hopefully they can sort it, The forwards need to step up to the mark and help 6+7. And on top of this the crowd needs to get behind the team, A vocal East Stand getting behind the team must surely help!

Walker won't be playing for a start, he's taken the early guilty plea:

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Burns may at least get us playing to the right and side of the field as well, although we are very potent offensively on the left we are very one dimensional and predictable.
As expected i think Hally will replace Caro,i dont think its Craigs best position but he is a very good finisher. Come on Lads wake up and start been aggressive in defence and stop been lazy and cutting corners, otherwise the coach who put his faith in you and brought you to this proud club will be on his bike.

Sandercock mentioned loose forward as an option when asked about Burns. Maybe with Lovegrove up to prop this week for Walker?

It's true tho isnt it certain trolls FC fans what ever u want to call them not all mind come on for a troll fest

I can't believe i've just read this entire thread. I'd like to chip in and declare that my penis is both bigger and better than yours (even if you don't have one)