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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"No you are wrong completely, and utterly stupid as demonstrated by your post.
'" if you was a parent you'd maybe understand a little more, imagine if it was your own flesh and blood having his head whacked from boot to concrete, boot to concrete... catch my drift, how do you think the victims parents are feeling now after those 2 animals are walking the streets without a care in the world, mind you he did have a flash back, christ on a bike.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The outcome of Crocker's trial was a £300 fine. Cockayne got a 12 month sentence, albeit suspended. Have you even seen the video, or are you one of these making ridiculous claims that it's no worse than what their kids see at school on a daily basis?'"
If we are going to have degrees of thuggery then the debate is pointless.Ban one and you ban them all IMO. Are you telling me you would welcome Crocker then?
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| Quote ="legohead" mind you he did have a flash back, christ on a bike.'"
That flashback attempt to absolve himself from blame was the icing on the cake. What was Cockayne's record in Iraq?
To me that shows no remorse. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seen no statement of apology or regret anywhere, apart from him admitting that prison was "Hell" for his own poor skin.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"That flashback attempt to absolve himself from blame was the icing on the cake. What was Cockayne's record in Iraq?
To me that shows no remorse. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seen no statement of apology or regret anywhere, apart from him admitting that prison was "Hell" for his own poor skin.'" exactly, no sorry, no public apology, nothing... he isnt sorry, im glad you pointed that out.
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"If we are going to have degrees of thuggery then the debate is pointless.Ban one and you ban them all IMO. Are you telling me you would welcome Crocker then?'" Don't be daft crocker was guilty of affray, which can just be threatening violence. This d!ck head has been convicted of assault, completely not comparable.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Don't be daft crocker was guilty of affray, which can just be threatening violence. This d!ck head has been convicted of assault, completely not comparable.'"
What was Raynor convicted of again?
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| The fact it was caught on cctv just adds to the disgrace of the two . No sane human being could defend it and the punishment handed out has to be accepted whether we agree with it or not .
The RFL has to make a stand somewhere and i think with the video in the public domain they should make it now . Our kids see players as there heroes on the field and should see them in the same light off the field, it's not just this case the unprofessional conduct of some players from across the leagues seems to be growing and a stand must be taken and the law laid down .
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| Quote ="DEANO H"Regardless of where he is from, he represents our club, our colours, our image, our youngsters. That why it effects the image of the Pride of East Hull! That is why he needs to go. Now!
Anyone who condones it or justifies it by referring to other incidents and other players is deluded.
You cannot say someone else was involved in a completely seperate incident is the same, regardless of how much I dislike Gareth Raynor.
I might go out burgling tonight because surely that's okay because a couple of years ago someone burgled me.....'"
Not a chance! Rovers shirt sales with Cockayne on the back will go through the roof this week, and shortly after he'll be promoted to club captain and assistant coach to the under 21's!
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| Deary me. This was a sensible debate earlier on
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Don't be daft crocker was guilty of affray, which can just be threatening violence. This d!ck head has been convicted of assault, completely not comparable.'"
The evidence was to the contary. He is a thug and we have enough of them here without importing anymore!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Don't be daft crocker was guilty of affray, which can just be threatening violence. This d!ck head has been convicted of assault, completely not comparable.'"
It is use of, or the threatening of violence so you are totally wrong anyway, but when has that stopped people on here!
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"It is use of, or the threatening of violence so you are totally wrong anyway, but when has that stopped people on here!'"
England footballer Steven Gerrard looked relieved yesterday after [uassault[/u charges against him were dropped. The £120,000-a-week Liverpool captain puffed out his cheeks as he left a court hearing over an alleged bar brawl which left a businessman injured.
Gerrard, 28, is still accused of [uaffray[/u
So you are still maintaining the two cases are comparable in severity, then?
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| If anybody sticks up for him or say he shouldn't be banned by the RFL then your idiots
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| Quote ="dennison15"If anybody sticks up for him or say he shouldn't be banned by the RFL then your idiots'"
Your silence when Raynor was convicted of Racial aggravated assault speaks wonders.
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| Sickening behaviour the RL should take action without hesitation. No room for that behaviour in our family sport. The judge who failed to imprison both of the individuals should be stood down with immediate effect. Well done to Cas for acting so swiftly in sacking the other coward.
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| Quote ="Big Spender"Your silence when Raynor was convicted of Racial aggravated assault speaks wonders.'"
And your loud condemnation of Cockayne's actions is still ringing in our ears. Or maybe I missed it and you said "not the first and won't be the last" in a slightly shoulder-shrugging way.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"When is the announcement going to be made by the club? They knew on Monday that sentencing was Thursday, so presumably would have prepared something for both potential outcomes (ie custodial or otherwise).'"
They made a statement after the game this Evening
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"They made a statement after the game this Evening'"
Is it available to view anywhere. If not could you summarise it please ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Is it available to view anywhere. If not could you summarise it please ?'"
Hull KR's board of directors will be meeting next week, in advance of the club's meeting with Ben Cockayne, to discuss any further action or sanctions against Ben
As previously stated, the club view both Ben's behaviour and the sentance passed by the courts seriously.In particular the club will be giving careful consideration to the comments passed by the honourable judge in sentancing Ben
Any decisions that are made must follow due process
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Hull KR's board of directors will be meeting next week, in advance of the club's meeting with Ben Cockayne, to discuss any further action or sanctions against Ben
As previously stated, the club view both Ben's behaviour and the sentance passed by the courts seriously.In particular the club will be giving careful consideration to the comments passed by the honourable judge in sentancing Ben
Any decisions that are made must follow due process
There will be no further comment from the club or player'"
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Hull KR's board of directors will be meeting next week, in advance of the club's meeting with Ben Cockayne, to discuss any further action or sanctions against Ben
As previously stated, the club view both Ben's behaviour and the sentance passed by the courts seriously.In particular the club will be giving careful consideration to the comments passed by the honourable judge in sentancing Ben
Any decisions that are made must follow due process
There will be no further comment from the club or player'"
Seems like a sensible response from Rovers, unlike some posters on here. Thought the statement yesterday from the club was a little wooly and this is much more substantial and informative.
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| whens raynor up for assault and racial abuse?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Seems like a sensible response from Rovers, unlike some posters on here. Thought the statement yesterday from the club was a little wooly and this is much more substantial and informative.'"
What, saying they're having a meeting amongst themselves before a meeting with Cockayne? As opposed to yesterday's statement that said they were having a meeting with Cockayne? He pleaded guilty last July and there were only really 2 outcomes from a sentencing perspective, jail or no jail. Not that difficult to plan for 2 possible eventualities is it, especially when you've got 8 months to do so?
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| Quote ="redandy"whens raynor up for assault and racial abuse?'"
Been done and dusted oh 6 fingered one.
However. Uncle Ben is renowned round Normy as being apt to the first 4 letters of his surname.
How he's got away with that can only add more fuel to the joke of a justice system we have.;
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| I just watched it , he belongs in a zoo. Im a Hull fan but dont care who he plays for, if anyone else does anything comparable to this then I'd say the same. He should never play again... end off.
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