No. I did, however, miss any expression of attitude towards another race within that whole saga. Please feel free to enlighten me as to what views he expressed about another race.

Ok I get it, you like Ben and would like him back at Rovers
He admitted to and apologised for making racist remarks on his Facebook page which it was also reported contained inflammatory remarks about immigration. This is a matter of public record and is not denied by Ben Cockayne himself.
That to me is racism and an unsavoury attitude towards other races.
You obviously dont agree with this and would welcome Ben back.
I wouldnt

Did he admit to making a racist comment? I'm not sure he did.
I'm not particularly bothered either way if we sign him again. If Sandercock and the board think it is for the good of the club, then so be it. I just disagree entirely with this embarrassing pretend moral high ground that some people are trying to speak from.

He absolutely did admit to it and he apologised publicly for it.
Im not sure what you mean about pretend moral high ground or who you are aiming that comment at but I'll be totally clear I am 100% against racism and I'm not pretending about that.
Ben Cockayne and his views/racist terminology mean that I would prefer him not to play for the team I support.
That is my view and im not trying to make it yours as well but I do think attempting to deny or deflect from the racist element of Ben's history is wrong. If you dont think it was that big a deal and your willing to overlook it as long as Ben pulls on the Rovers shirt again then just say that, but let's not pretend it didn't happen.

Leave him where he is we don't need him, unless Eden is leaving? now there is a thought

As much as I liked Charlie wen he played at KR that was then think we shud just move on now I always say dont ever go back I'd never go back to an old job. Surely we don't need him now .

Admitting to have said what he said and apologising for doing so does not constitute admitting to making a racist comment. He apologised for the damage caused by what he had written but denied being a racist and no views were ever expressed about a race. Substitute the word he used for another race and nobody bats an eyelid as no actual racism took place, hence the quickly dropped charges. Not wanting him back is fine, not agreeing with what he has done is normal but nobody can make accusations as to his views on other races as nobody knows what they are, despite what the Hull Daily Mail told you.

I think your assessment of Cockayne as a player is based more on his off field incidents than his actual playing ability.

We could argue (on the VT) all day about what does and does not constitute racism. However the idea that substituting 'black ****' or 'Jewish ****' for what he said would lead to nobody batting an eyelid is not accurate. And I'm being generous by avoiding the n- and y- words.
It is old and, irrespective of where you draw the line on racism, ugly ground, and not his only embarrassing misdemeanour. I don't want to have to go over it again, and at nearly 30 and presumably needing a fee, I'm not even seeing any compelling rugby reason to justify raking over old coals.

Wakefield have stated he is going nowhere, so hopefully that will put you all out of your misery.
Whatever issues ben has he has proven to be a very good rugby league player and i would be happy for him to remain a wakefield player.
While he has been with us his behaviour and conduct has been exemplary.

I can see that and I think that's fine.

Cockayne had plenty of chances and made plenty of mistakes and eventually burned his bridges at Rovers.

He made some serious errors of judgement but I personally (however abhorrent I felt his behaviour to be at the time) don't feel that he should be denied the chance to pursue his chosen career. His time was up at Rovers because of his off field misdemeanours and I don't think there was anything wrong in Wakefield offering the chance to have another go. As you say, he's kept his nose clean since he's been at Belle Vue and he's proved to be a success.

Best thing is for him to stay where he is, he looks to be pretty involved in the community side of things over there and is clearly enjoying his rugby, all other issues aside I can't see why he would want to leave, why Wakefield would let him go or why Rovers would want him back.

I think it would be obvious why, he is a proven try scorer and a hard worker something teams like ours would desire.
Everything else i completely agree.

He did, but lets put race on the back burner for now.

What about stamping on the head of a prone man on the floor?

Aye that says it all for me.



Yes, there's no doubting that - but he's under contract with you guys, and while he's versatile and a 100%er, even on purely rugby terms I don't think he justifies a fee. I'd rather we used that money to secure a forward or a half. And if we do need a back there's a few ooc.

I see agar has said to rovers no a bought ben cockayne, I do not think we have heard the last of this does he want to come back if so he might be back for next season, no matter what agar says me I am not bothered has long has he does us a job

He said no to a player swap deal. Rovers have now apparently gone back with a cash offer. Seems [isomeone[/i really wants him back.

HDMsport ‏@HDMsport

#WTW coach Richard Agar has indicated #HullKR have now made a cash offer for Ben Cockayne after initially proposing a player swap

Paying a fee for a player we sacked in a position we don't need to strengthen would be an error of Crossmanesque proportions.

Please, somebody shoot over to CP and steal Mikes Remington ribbon before he types out the contract.

As a supporter of a club who have a player in their squad who is currently being investigated for allegedly assaulting a woman, I would rein it in.

A little different to charged and found guilty. I really don't understand your backing of him. As MR says why would you pay a fee for someone you had sacked.

As I have said, if the club think it is the right deal then fine. Personally, I wouldn't think we should be trying particularly hard to sign him as 29 year old utility backs are not really what we need afaik.

I don't know what amazes me more...

1. We have some cash

or

2. We're trying to spend it on a winger/utility back who we sacked 2 years ago. And who turns 30 in a couple of weeks. And...

He actually said Hull KR made a cash offer when the swap was rejected over a month ago. That was also rejected. So if you were to end up with him, which i highly doubt, then you will be paying way over the odds for a soon to be 30 year old winger.

Yeah, I've just read the updated article - the tweet is misleading. Just the HDM trying to milk it. I may say something cutting later - that'll make them think twice.

Had a smirk at them reporting Agar saying "You can’t get caught up over comments in the Hull Daily Mail as some of the stuff they print is laughable,'' on their own page.