Come on, slight exaggeration and you know it. Murrell was a stand off but weight trained to become a loose forward.

My point was to leave hin there. We have other options.

Well said mate.

Being successful is not just about personnel, it's about continuity - play a player position and leave him there (as long as he's performing) and if he gets injured replace like for like instead of ing about tinkering with the team otherwise we will just end up going in circles having inconsistent performances.

Continuity brings consistency and consistency brings success...

Just get the feeling that Morgan wants a team thats adaptable. Some positions can allow that but others cant. I'anson is a direct replacement for Cooke, make it so, otherwise a promising player will get pi$$ed off very quickly.
Does it matter if he bombs? We wont get relegated on the back of one result. Its not Celtic, its Saints after all. Give the youngsters a chance.

I can see what you was getting at but it still does not answer the question of why someone would have to put weight on to play 13.

If a lad is a spot he will get spotted so his size would not effect his defence wherever he is in the line because a good side would run over him on the wing or in the middle of the park.

In good ball the chance of a 6 or 13 needing to power over the line is slim and therefore surely he would be better being lighter to use his feet to evade tackles?

Just my thoughts like

You been reading that coaching manual again

I took a break from pleasuring DP and listened to him on the phone to someone ha ha

You might as now bothered replying, I could have guessed what you biased post would ahve said, before you typed it.

Lee is a decent hooker, we have tow very good hookers in front on him at Hull at the moment, most of your fans know that Fitzhenry isnt a hooker and Fisher's form has been poor recentley.

I also believe Dave that Lee can be a very good SL hooker with more game time there.

He's a winger by trade but has played fullback, centre, off-half and hooker for West Tigers several times.

Not disputing Lee is a good player (he seems to be one of the few FC players who can actually create something with a pass) but Fitzhenry's service from dummy-half has been crisp and accurate, his defence has been strong in the middle and his scooting has been very effective (when he's did some) with his strong leg drive.

And whilst not totally relevant for a hooker, Fitzhenry is probably the fastest player in the whole of Super League; and I think it's a shame (for what ever reason) RL fans in this country have not seen anything like the spectacular wonder tries he scored at West Tigers.

What evidence would you have to suggest that? He has not shown anything at Rovers to suggest he is the fastest player in SL.

Plenty of Tigers fans were glad he was leaving, in fact only the minority wanted him to stay. If he is such a good winger (and he is a winger, he can play in other positions but he is a winger) how come two rookies have displaced him so easily?

Penny, Sherriffe, Raynor, Calderwood, Donald, Gardner, david Hodgson etc etc.

Cant remember Fitzhenry outpacing, or looking like he had the potential to outpace any of those players.

You'll be telling us next you can't remember a Rovers prop catching a certain back who had quite a start at the KC a couple of years ago.

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You mean the 2 yards head start Vella had, with which he actually did fairly well to shepherd Sing towards the wing before the Hull winger cuts inside without Vella laying a finger on him.



Strange what people remember and what actually happend are two different things.

I remember certain clowns claiming he caught Yeaman

Justin Morgan wanted to bring him closer to the action this season instead of having him stuck out on the wing and he has performed better at hooker than Fisher so far IMO (including pre-season games).

I thought Fitzhenry looked average against Leeds.

If you are happy with your hookers, then fair enough, your major weakness IMO.

I wouldn't expect you to considering you're an FC fan!

Though can't you remember him embarressing Gardner last year with his 90m try against Saints?

i think ireggs 16 put gardner in there as a joke, well i hope so anyway.

He can't have done too bad considering we were leading when he left the field. Though he may have not looked as good in the first 20 considering Leeds line was 2 yards up before the ball hit the floor and it took a while for Bentham to cotton and and start penalising them for it.


Fitzhenry is doing a good job as a second hooker though I do agree Fisher has escaped criticism for far too long with his p1ss poor performances (though he did ok at Bradford) and his poor form has been a major part of the go-forward problem.

wheres cockayne playing when he comes on? thought hed get a run there this season.

I did



FWIW I thinkl Gardner outside a mediocre centre would do nothing

So you reckon Fox beat Penny and Fox got beat by Fitz, its not evidence mate its just your opinion.

Tbh I don't think I have seen both of those long range tries but lots of players score full length tries.

He looked okay against Leeds although the only thing that stands out was one kick he put in which forced a drop out.

Your trying to tell me that because Rovers where leading he had a good game, after watching rugby for years, I have to tell you it doesnt work that way.

Also I like the way you have tried to blame the Ref for him having an average game.

Most Rovers fans I know are not impressed with Fitzhenry at hooker, and think that Rovers have made a big mistake letting Netherton go (altough wasnt it partly Nethertons fault for leaving.)

I've watched rugby for years too and I take your point though I wasn't stating he had a good game in particular, I was saying he didn't have a bad game as such.


Leeds being offside at the PTB during the 1st 20mins was a significant factor.


Overall opinion I have encountered amongst follow Rover's fans has been nothing of the sort, infact most have been impressed throughout the pre-season friendlies and you've got to remember that was his fist game back from a groin injury.