Regardless of where he is from, he represents our club, our colours, our image, our youngsters. That why it effects the image of the Pride of East Hull! That is why he needs to go. Now!

Anyone who condones it or justifies it by referring to other incidents and other players is deluded.

You cannot say someone else was involved in a completely seperate incident is the same, regardless of how much I dislike Gareth Raynor.

I might go out burgling tonight because surely that's okay because a couple of years ago someone burgled me.....

Well said, You've hit the nail on the head.

I assume, having read some of the sanctimonious claptrap on this thread that as we speak James Rule is on the phone telling Crocker the cop-beater not to bother appealing as Hull FC do not like his sort?

Did Crocker and his mate hold down the cop and beat him ?

The outcome of Crocker's trial was a £300 fine. Cockayne got a 12 month sentence, albeit suspended. Have you even seen the video, or are you one of these making ridiculous claims that it's no worse than what their kids see at school on a daily basis?

People cannot condone that sort of behavior if he had been a bus driver his licence would have been taken off him and his livelihood would have gone ..just because he is a sportsman there should be no difference ..That go for all Sports people.. they are ROLE models to the youngsters who love watching any sporting event ..the only people who get satisfaction out of incident like is the drunken thugs who do it but don't get caught ..and people should not be making this a HKR/Hull debate the incident would have sicked true Rugby supporters of both teams

bloody hell what school do they go to

best post I've read on the subject by far.

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Agreed.

Raynor can join him!

im right tho arnt i, are you a parent???

I agree. Rovers are in a no win situation. If they do - as they should - sack him, another club would indeed snap him up - good players are short on the ground. It's all very well taking the moral high ground and getting rid if you believe (as I'm sure most right minded supporters and club officials will) Rovers should not be associated with a player capable of committing violence of this magnitude, but pretty galling when you're lining up against him in a couple of weeks.

Who loses? Cockayne or Rovers? I know many will say that is irrelevant as long as Rovers have done the right thing, but is that really the most just outcome?

No, the RFL need to step in and make this decision on behalf of ALL clubs. I bet Rovers would be the first to heave a sigh of relief.

But which is due first - the RFL hearing or the KR one? And is the little turd allowed to appear for Rovers in the mean time?

I think he'll end up in the championship, not superleague standard in my opinion.

No you are wrong completely, and utterly stupid as demonstrated by your post.

if you was a parent you'd maybe understand a little more, imagine if it was your own flesh and blood having his head whacked from boot to concrete, boot to concrete... catch my drift, how do you think the victims parents are feeling now after those 2 animals are walking the streets without a care in the world, mind you he did have a flash back, christ on a bike.

If we are going to have degrees of thuggery then the debate is pointless.Ban one and you ban them all IMO. Are you telling me you would welcome Crocker then?

That flashback attempt to absolve himself from blame was the icing on the cake. What was Cockayne's record in Iraq?

To me that shows no remorse. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seen no statement of apology or regret anywhere, apart from him admitting that prison was "Hell" for his own poor skin.

exactly, no sorry, no public apology, nothing... he isnt sorry, im glad you pointed that out.

Don't be daft crocker was guilty of affray, which can just be threatening violence. This d!ck head has been convicted of assault, completely not comparable.

What was Raynor convicted of again?

The fact it was caught on cctv just adds to the disgrace of the two . No sane human being could defend it and the punishment handed out has to be accepted whether we agree with it or not .

The RFL has to make a stand somewhere and i think with the video in the public domain they should make it now . Our kids see players as there heroes on the field and should see them in the same light off the field, it's not just this case the unprofessional conduct of some players from across the leagues seems to be growing and a stand must be taken and the law laid down .

Not a chance! Rovers shirt sales with Cockayne on the back will go through the roof this week, and shortly after he'll be promoted to club captain and assistant coach to the under 21's!

Deary me. This was a sensible debate earlier on

The evidence was to the contary. He is a thug and we have enough of them here without importing anymore!

It is use of, or the threatening of violence so you are totally wrong anyway, but when has that stopped people on here!