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| Quote ="His Bobness"I must admit I was very disappointed after the game especially with our defensive effort.
We were bad but watching again on SKY + not quite as bad as I thought. A stat came up after 59 mins of missed tackles Rovers 9 Bradford 18 which I must say did surprise me. Of course we did miss a fair few after that don't know what the final tally was. Also as ever not nearly enough credit is given to the opposition, Bradford could easily have caved in but they didn't and produced a tremendous finish to the game.
The opening salvo from Rovers was quite brilliant with the commentators telling us what a great season us Rovers fans had to look forward to! You could see why too, it was the best rugby Rovers have ever produced in Super League. Trouble is when you start red hot at 100 mph it inevitably burns out and that is what seemed to happen to Rovers. We don't want to lose that kind of intensity and energy but somehow you have to marry it with a little patience and be always prepared for the inevitable period when the opposition have more of the ball. That's the biggest lesson from the Bradford game IMO.
There is a lot of ability in the Rovers team IMO and we just need to get everyone working as a unit defensively and also being a bit more alert to potential danger. Sandercock is obviously working on this and I feel the players are still a little unfamiliar with new defensive systems.
Some Hull fans have commented that they have new defensive structures too and haven't struggled in the same manner. That's fair comment but IMO Hull had a much better defence than Rovers to start with. And there is no doubt Rovers are playing a far more expansive game under Sandercock sometimes it breaks down and we seem to not be alert enough to the easy metres teams are making after picking up loose ball.
Also we have to accept that Sandercock himself is in unfamiliar territory there is a world of difference between being an assistant and a head coach not least in the pressure that comes with the job as I am sure he is finding out. It's no different for Gentle but at least he started with a defence that was already the 5th best in Super League in 2011. Hull's main problem last year was predictability on attack and I see no step change as yet but why would there be? If you could make everything perfect after 5 games coaching would be a very easy job indeed.
Sandercock is an extremely intelligent man with a vast knowledge of Rugby League and the man is a workaholic. He will not rest until he gets it right and I wouldn't worry about his slightly awkward way with the media. Who cares? Watch him on Hull KR TV he's fine. I dare say in all his years at Manly & Newcastle nobody interviewed him once and certainly not to explain away a disapponting defeat. That's what Head Coaches are for but really being good in front of a microphone simply means that people like Morgan & McRae are better actors.
Rovers are now an exciting team with exciting players but we all know you have to defend. We couldn't do this well enough last year and 6 games haven't been long enough to resolve it. Probably with new systems to take on board we are if anything a little worse. Sometimes you have to go backwards before you can go forwards.
Things can soon turn around look at Widnes beating Wigan today who'd have thought it? Last week Betts was blaming things on his players having cold hands and was ridiculed. Now we find that Rovers rotten defence nilled the team that's put 37 past Wigan.
With Catalans away coming up next and then Huddersfield, Rovers have an opportunity to follow the example of Widnes. We were under the radar before the Bradford game now we have crash landed. But I still say Rovers are going to surprise a lot of people as the season progresses, most of you I imagine will disagree.'"
In a word; EXACTLY! I think most are being very dramatic about last night. You have, quite literally put into words, my exact point of view.  |
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| Quote ="His Bobness"I must admit I was very disappointed after the game especially with our defensive effort.
We were bad but watching again on SKY + not quite as bad as I thought. A stat came up after 59 mins of missed tackles Rovers 9 Bradford 18 which I must say did surprise me. Of course we did miss a fair few after that don't know what the final tally was. Also as ever not nearly enough credit is given to the opposition, Bradford could easily have caved in but they didn't and produced a tremendous finish to the game.
The opening salvo from Rovers was quite brilliant with the commentators telling us what a great season us Rovers fans had to look forward to! You could see why too, it was the best rugby Rovers have ever produced in Super League. Trouble is when you start red hot at 100 mph it inevitably burns out and that is what seemed to happen to Rovers. We don't want to lose that kind of intensity and energy but somehow you have to marry it with a little patience and be always prepared for the inevitable period when the opposition have more of the ball. That's the biggest lesson from the Bradford game IMO.
There is a lot of ability in the Rovers team IMO and we just need to get everyone working as a unit defensively and also being a bit more alert to potential danger. Sandercock is obviously working on this and I feel the players are still a little unfamiliar with new defensive systems.
Some Hull fans have commented that they have new defensive structures too and haven't struggled in the same manner. That's fair comment but IMO Hull had a much better defence than Rovers to start with. And there is no doubt Rovers are playing a far more expansive game under Sandercock sometimes it breaks down and we seem to not be alert enough to the easy metres teams are making after picking up loose ball.
Also we have to accept that Sandercock himself is in unfamiliar territory there is a world of difference between being an assistant and a head coach not least in the pressure that comes with the job as I am sure he is finding out. It's no different for Gentle but at least he started with a defence that was already the 5th best in Super League in 2011. Hull's main problem last year was predictability on attack and I see no step change as yet but why would there be? If you could make everything perfect after 5 games coaching would be a very easy job indeed.
Sandercock is an extremely intelligent man with a vast knowledge of Rugby League and the man is a workaholic. He will not rest until he gets it right and I wouldn't worry about his slightly awkward way with the media. Who cares? Watch him on Hull KR TV he's fine. I dare say in all his years at Manly & Newcastle nobody interviewed him once and certainly not to explain away a disapponting defeat. That's what Head Coaches are for but really being good in front of a microphone simply means that people like Morgan & McRae are better actors.
Rovers are now an exciting team with exciting players but we all know you have to defend. We couldn't do this well enough last year and 6 games haven't been long enough to resolve it. Probably with new systems to take on board we are if anything a little worse. Sometimes you have to go backwards before you can go forwards.
Things can soon turn around look at Widnes beating Wigan today who'd have thought it? Last week Betts was blaming things on his players having cold hands and was ridiculed. Now we find that Rovers rotten defence nilled the team that's put 37 past Wigan.
With Catalans away coming up next and then Huddersfield, Rovers have an opportunity to follow the example of Widnes. We were under the radar before the Bradford game now we have crash landed. But I still say Rovers are going to surprise a lot of people as the season progresses, most of you I imagine will disagree.'"
In a word; EXACTLY! I think most are being very dramatic about last night. You have, quite literally put into words, my exact point of view. |
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| Quote ="His Bobness"I must admit I was very disappointed after the game especially with our defensive effort.
We were bad but watching again on SKY + not quite as bad as I thought. A stat came up after 59 mins of missed tackles Rovers 9 Bradford 18 which I must say did surprise me. Of course we did miss a fair few after that don't know what the final tally was. Also as ever not nearly enough credit is given to the opposition, Bradford could easily have caved in but they didn't and produced a tremendous finish to the game.
The opening salvo from Rovers was quite brilliant with the commentators telling us what a great season us Rovers fans had to look forward to! You could see why too, it was the best rugby Rovers have ever produced in Super League. Trouble is when you start red hot at 100 mph it inevitably burns out and that is what seemed to happen to Rovers. We don't want to lose that kind of intensity and energy but somehow you have to marry it with a little patience and be always prepared for the inevitable period when the opposition have more of the ball. That's the biggest lesson from the Bradford game IMO.
There is a lot of ability in the Rovers team IMO and we just need to get everyone working as a unit defensively and also being a bit more alert to potential danger. Sandercock is obviously working on this and I feel the players are still a little unfamiliar with new defensive systems.
Some Hull fans have commented that they have new defensive structures too and haven't struggled in the same manner. That's fair comment but IMO Hull had a much better defence than Rovers to start with. And there is no doubt Rovers are playing a far more expansive game under Sandercock sometimes it breaks down and we seem to not be alert enough to the easy metres teams are making after picking up loose ball.
Also we have to accept that Sandercock himself is in unfamiliar territory there is a world of difference between being an assistant and a head coach not least in the pressure that comes with the job as I am sure he is finding out. It's no different for Gentle but at least he started with a defence that was already the 5th best in Super League in 2011. Hull's main problem last year was predictability on attack and I see no step change as yet but why would there be? If you could make everything perfect after 5 games coaching would be a very easy job indeed.
Sandercock is an extremely intelligent man with a vast knowledge of Rugby League and the man is a workaholic. He will not rest until he gets it right and I wouldn't worry about his slightly awkward way with the media. Who cares? Watch him on Hull KR TV he's fine. I dare say in all his years at Manly & Newcastle nobody interviewed him once and certainly not to explain away a disapponting defeat. That's what Head Coaches are for but really being good in front of a microphone simply means that people like Morgan & McRae are better actors.
Rovers are now an exciting team with exciting players but we all know you have to defend. We couldn't do this well enough last year and 6 games haven't been long enough to resolve it. Probably with new systems to take on board we are if anything a little worse. Sometimes you have to go backwards before you can go forwards.
Things can soon turn around look at Widnes beating Wigan today who'd have thought it? Last week Betts was blaming things on his players having cold hands and was ridiculed. Now we find that Rovers rotten defence nilled the team that's put 37 past Wigan.
With Catalans away coming up next and then Huddersfield, Rovers have an opportunity to follow the example of Widnes. We were under the radar before the Bradford game now we have crash landed. But I still say Rovers are going to surprise a lot of people as the season progresses, most of you I imagine will disagree.'"
In a word; EXACTLY! I think most are being very dramatic about last night. You have, quite literally put into words, my exact point of view. |
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| Quote ="fallon's jaw"supported hull Fc for 36yrs i don't travel away but havn't missed many home games and in my time never had a crowd of 900
 defo in low thousands around 2500-3000 in lean times but never had 900 when ive been there'"
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| Quote ="tiger2000"In my lifetime (50 years) Rovers have certanly finished higher then Hull on more occasions then not, particualy dominating form the mid 60's (when I first started going) to the mid 80's.'"
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I'm sure its in a Rothmans year book or email Bill Dalton.
Are the years that they weren't in the same division classed as finishing higher or just the ones in which they were for the purposes of this dispute.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"You must be a newcomer to the game if thats what you think,
because i can gurrantee that you most certainly have not been.
You obviously wern't around when there were only 900 at the Boulevard and still in div 2, i also dont remember you ever winning back to back titles or been one of only a small number of clubs ever to win the treble in a season.
As for Sandercock not been able to communicate with the press,
 you should take those ear muffs off along with with your blinkers.'"
seventies red if you are struggling to find the info on your TREBLE year could you let us know and maybe some other rovers fans might be able to help
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70s red your right, there was around 900 at fc game against huyton late 60s early 70s i think,
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| Quote ="hull2524"70s red your right, there was around 900 at fc game against huyton late 60s early 70s i think,'"
it was the early seventies,my parents were there |
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a sensible one from divoz, well done
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I have the programme from the infamous Huyton game. Before my time, but the old man was there.
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Just watched superleague full time and watched our coaches interview and he says maybe in hindsight we shud ave tuk welham of cos ultimately that was the deciding factor fair enough welham says he wanted to stay on but come on ain't he the coach and don't he ultimately decide if this type of injury is going to put pressure on the rest of the team if a player stays on that isn't 100 per cent
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| Quote ="phleastyler"a sensible one from divoz, well done'"
its not sensible its just confirming the truth unlike seventies red who claims your club has won a TREBLE which has not been confirmed by anybody else,you dont think he could be making it up do you just to strengthen his arguement |
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| OUR DEFENCE NEEDS SORTING OUT BIG TIME BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE 
WELHAM NEEDS SOME LESSONS ON HOW TO TACKLE AND TOLD NOT SHOOT OUT THE LINE 
TEAMS TARGET HIM AND IT PAYS OFF. EVERY YARD COUNTS AND HE GIVES AWAY TOO MANY IN DEFENCE 
OTHER PLAYERS TOO OF COURSE BUT HE STICKS OUT AS HES IN THE ENGLAND SQUAD  |
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| Quote ="dayvoz"its not sensible its just confirming the truth unlike seventies red who claims your club has won a TREBLE which has not been confirmed by anybody else,you dont think he could be making it up do you just to strengthen his arguement'"
No we have not won a treble we have won a double three time bot not a treble  |
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Defence? What's that ......'"
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| Quote ="dayvoz"seventies red if you are struggling to find the info on your TREBLE year could you let us know and maybe some other rovers fans might be able to help
what year?
what trophies constitute the treble?'"
Yes Dayvos, i am struggling, it seems i was wrong and have got it badly mixed up this time  and for that i apologise for my mistake.
I honestly thought we had won the Championship, the John player and the premiership or Yorkshie cup during the same season, i even used to have a picture on my office wall, taken during the early eighties with the team displaying three trophies, obviously they cant all have been won during the same season as i had previously believed, However i will console myself in the knowledge that i got the 900 Hull fc attendance figure correct, although i wasn't sure of the extact year. |
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Yes Dayvos, i am struggling, it seems i was wrong and have got it badly mixed up this time
and for that i apologise for my mistake.
I honestly thought we had won the Championship, the John player and the premiership or Yorkshie cup during the same season, i even used to have a picture on my office wall, taken during the early eighties with the team displaying three trophies, obviously they cant all have been won during the same season as i had previously believed, However i will console myself in the knowledge that i got the 900 Hull fc attendance figure correct,
although i wasn't sure of the extact year.'"
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I guess when we won the league in '85 we simultaneously held it, the JPS Trophy and the Premiership (from the previous season)? Not a treble, but it perhaps meant we had 3 trophies at once and could explain the picture in your office.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I guess when we won the league in '85 we simultaneously held it, the JPS Trophy and the Premiership (from the previous season)? Not a treble, but it perhaps meant we had 3 trophies at once and could explain the picture in your office.'"
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| Quote ="dayvoz"it was the early seventies,my parents were there'"
Good job,otherwise it would have been 898!,mind you they must have enjoyed the conversation as they passed the biscuits around. |
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I guess when we won the league in '85 we simultaneously held it, the JPS Trophy and the Premiership (from the previous season)? Not a treble, but it perhaps meant we had 3 trophies at once and could explain the picture in your office.'"
Quite possible, actualy i'm pretty sure i still have that picture stored somewhere in my memorbilia collection, so i may have to dig it out sometime to see which trophies they actually were. |
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Speaking of defence , i hear that our reserve fullback Louis Sheriff, could be out for at least another six weeks with a knee ligament injury, he seems to be having a real hard time with injuries at the moment, hope he recovers quickly and has a good injury free run from then on.'"
He was looking really good in his come back game aswell. One cut out pass to Dave Scott was quality.
I was a bit annoyed watching him walk around after the game un-aided and up and down the East Stand steps. I'm not a medical man but i would have thought that having broken down in your first game after a knee reconstruction climbing steps would be a bit of a no no and it may have been sensible to give him a pair of crutches. |
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I was a bit annoyed watching him walk around after the game un-aided and up and down the East Stand steps. I'm not a medical man but i would have thought that having broken down in your first game after a knee reconstruction climbing steps would be a bit of a no no and it may have been sensible to give him a pair of crutches.'"
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defo in low thousands around 2500-3000 in lean times but never had 900 when ive been there'"
you should take those ear muffs off along with with your blinkers.'"
and for that i apologise for my mistake.
