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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/
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| Quote ="Monko"Rovers are an up and coming SL club with a good team that can beat anyone on the day.......Do the right thing a get rid of this animal. He is a disgrace to your club and to the great game. RL doesn't need violent thugs in the game. I can't see how Rovers could justify keeping him at the club after Cas did the right thing. Its bad press for Rovers and now the video is on You tube.'"
How dare any F.C fan come on here and suggest we rid ourselves of him?
F.F.S look at your own players before telling us to sack ours, you have a racist player who just happens to like sticking glasses in peoples faces!
The club will deal with him as they see fit, I will back that decision, until any official staement is made by H.K.R i suugest this thread be locked.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Horrendous footage - the guy's a thug on the pitch and off it. Compare and contrast with your other full back, who is also a better player. Get rid.'"
Correction, he WAS hot headed, this season he has not retaliated to any provocation (and they do try it). Off it, no-one can argue that.
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| When is the announcement going to be made by the club? They knew on Monday that sentencing was Thursday, so presumably would have prepared something for both potential outcomes (ie custodial or otherwise).
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| I think the RFL should come in and take the decision away from Hull KR by banning him from the whole game. We don't need people like that at any level of our family orientated sport.
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| Where is the video of this incident?
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"I think the RFL should come in and take the decision away from Hull KR by banning him from the whole game. We don't need people like that at any level of our family orientated sport.'"
I think they will be reluctant to do such a thing, they sat on their hands with Raynor and Feka, also with Reardon and Pryce (golden boy international) getting a possible 'custodial' for violence they would then have to do the same. I think they will let Rovers handle it, if they do step in with Cockayne and NOT with others the sport will look weak.
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| Quote ="redtillimdead"How dare any F.C fan come on here and suggest we rid ourselves of him?
F.F.S look at your own players before telling us to sack ours, you have a racist player who just happens to like sticking glasses in peoples faces!
The club will deal with him as they see fit, I will back that decision, until any official staement is made by H.K.R i suugest this thread be locked.'"
Its called freedom of speech, a democracy. This is what forums are about pal.
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| Players who do things like this, should be banned from the SL for a couple of seasons. Just like the NRL do with there players.
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| Quote ="Monko"Its called freedom of speech, a democracy. This is what forums are about pal.'"
Unless of course the debate is stopped and the thread locked as has happened in some other cases.
Personally , I think it is a valid debate and people should be able to air their views.
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| Quote ="Captain Dave"Unless of course the debate is stopped and the thread locked as has happened in some other cases.
Personally , I think it is a valid debate and people should be able to air their views.'"
And air their views they will. Every pub in Hull will have plenty of people discussing the in's and out's of this subject for some time never mind RL forums. At least its better than discussing Peggy Mitchells wedding on Eastenders FFS.
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| Quote ="rover49"He is from Normanton you 2@ and the incident did not happen in East Hull, the club are no more to blame for his actions a than are FC for the cowardly racist attack Raynor carried out.
If you cannot bring more to the debate than that I suggest you get back to play school.'"
Regardless of where he is from, he represents our club, our colours, our image, our youngsters. That why it effects the image of the Pride of East Hull! That is why he needs to go. Now!
Anyone who condones it or justifies it by referring to other incidents and other players is deluded.
You cannot say someone else was involved in a completely seperate incident is the same, regardless of how much I dislike Gareth Raynor.
I might go out burgling tonight because surely that's okay because a couple of years ago someone burgled me.....
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| Quote ="DEANO H"Regardless of where he is from, he represents our club, our colours, our image, our youngsters. That why it effects the image of the Pride of East Hull! That is why he needs to go. Now!
Anyone who condones it or justifies it by referring to other incidents and other players is deluded.
You cannot say someone else was involved in a completely seperate incident is the same, regardless of how much I dislike Gareth Raynor.
I might go out burgling tonight because surely that's okay because a couple of years ago someone burgled me.....'"
Well said, You've hit the nail on the head.
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| I assume, having read some of the sanctimonious claptrap on this thread that as we speak James Rule is on the phone telling Crocker the cop-beater not to bother appealing as Hull FC do not like his sort?
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"I assume, having read some of the sanctimonious claptrap on this thread that as we speak James Rule is on the phone telling Crocker the cop-beater not to bother appealing as Hull FC do not like his sort?'"
Did Crocker and his mate hold down the cop and beat him ?
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"I assume, having read some of the sanctimonious claptrap on this thread that as we speak James Rule is on the phone telling Crocker the cop-beater not to bother appealing as Hull FC do not like his sort?'"
The outcome of Crocker's trial was a £300 fine. Cockayne got a 12 month sentence, albeit suspended. Have you even seen the video, or are you one of these making ridiculous claims that it's no worse than what their kids see at school on a daily basis?
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| People cannot condone that sort of behavior if he had been a bus driver his licence would have been taken off him and his livelihood would have gone ..just because he is a sportsman there should be no difference ..That go for all Sports people.. they are ROLE models to the youngsters who love watching any sporting event ..the only people who get satisfaction out of incident like is the drunken thugs who do it but don't get caught ..and people should not be making this a HKR/Hull debate the incident would have sicked true Rugby supporters of both teams
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"are you one of these making ridiculous claims that it's no worse than what their kids see at school on a daily basis?'"
bloody hell what school do they go to
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| Quote ="DEANO H"Regardless of where he is from, he represents our club, our colours, our image, our youngsters. That why it effects the image of the Pride of East Hull! That is why he needs to go. Now!
Anyone who condones it or justifies it by referring to other incidents and other players is deluded.
You cannot say someone else was involved in a completely seperate incident is the same, regardless of how much I dislike Gareth Raynor.
I might go out burgling tonight because surely that's okay because a couple of years ago someone burgled me.....'"
best post I've read on the subject by far.
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| Agreed.
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"I think the RFL should come in and take the decision away from Hull KR by banning him from the whole game. We don't need people like that at any level of our family orientated sport.'"
I agree. Rovers are in a no win situation. If they do - as they should - sack him, another club would indeed snap him up - good players are short on the ground. It's all very well taking the moral high ground and getting rid if you believe (as I'm sure most right minded supporters and club officials will) Rovers should not be associated with a player capable of committing violence of this magnitude, but pretty galling when you're lining up against him in a couple of weeks.
Who loses? Cockayne or Rovers? I know many will say that is irrelevant as long as Rovers have done the right thing, but is that really the most just outcome?
No, the RFL need to step in and make this decision on behalf of ALL clubs. I bet Rovers would be the first to heave a sigh of relief.
But which is due first - the RFL hearing or the KR one? And is the little turd allowed to appear for Rovers in the mean time?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I agree. Rovers are in a no win situation. If they do - as they should - sack him, another club would indeed snap him up - ?'"
I think he'll end up in the championship, not superleague standard in my opinion.
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| Quote ="legohead"im right tho arnt i, are you a parent???'"
No you are wrong completely, and utterly stupid as demonstrated by your post.
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