All ifs and buts though isn't it, if you had another nine brain cells you'd be in double figures, but lifes tough at times.
We've narrowly lost several games that last year under Morgan the coresponding fixtures were hammerings. I think we're heading in the right direction, it was never going to happen over night, it isn't just a change in the first team, it's a change in the whole culture of the club, with a shift to home grown players, and an end to throwing big contracts at average players. Morgan will always be part of our history, getting us to Super League as he did, but we needed the shake up Sandercock has brought to the club, and hopefully with a team he has had more input in choosing will be better equiped to play the way he wants them to.

God imagine if agar knocked us out of the play offs

You are nailed on for 3rd spot. It must be true cos Doc said so.

I think we will miss out on 4th by pts diff . And it will be fc v kr at the kc imo

Your doctor is a rugby fan

nope you had some close losses but theirs time yet
35 past Shudds
38 past Leeds
40 past Cas
33 past Stains
a more open play has reaped benefits as for Raleigh past his best you've obviously not been watching any clips

yes there good results but what if you play like you did in london we had 4 results very similar to yours and then lost 4 so it all depends which teams turn up i think we will win comfortably but then again i bet you do roll on sunday

We might put 70+ on you, again.

Hope this comes back to haunt you.

Fairly confident going into this game, we seem to be hitting the straps, KR seem to be in poor form - Wakey by 8. And a mild concussion for dobson

Why would a "we might..." post come back to haunt me?

I'd say that was more likely from a post wishing injury to a player.

It could all come down to the last game of the season for more reasons than one.Look at the wooden spoon sides London and Widnes London are much improved and play who in the final game.Cant compare how Wakey are playing now to how they were early doors things have certainly started to happen.Should be a good game and Im confident Wakey can win but then again I would say that.

Tsk, a prediction is not a wish and I was commenting on the potential attention Dobson is likely to attract from our second row.

remind me again after sunday as I had clean forgotten about that game it was so far away

He may well attract their attention, but there's bigger and better than yours have tried and failed.

HISS!

Who is this interloper?

Obviously i want Trinity to sneak the top 8 spot.. but if we dont then i wouldnt mind at all seeing Hull KR get the place in front of Bradford.
Would be a massive sense of injustice if they got there with RFL funded players who should've been flogged to bring in cash during their recent fiasco..!!

They managed to put him out of the game at their place after numerous late hits. I've got no doubts that they will try to do the same thing again on sunday. A strong referee will be needed to protect him i think.

James Green won't be getting a run out this week... www.code13rugbyleague.com/2012/0 ... suspended/

James Green won't be getting a run out this week... www.code13rugbyleague.com/2012/0 ... suspended/

Don't worry, we won't need to resort to tactics like that regarding Dobson.....we haven't in any of the previous 4 wins, so don't see why we will change on Sunday....

We've been winning by playing a great brand of rugby league....confidence is sky high.....everyone wants to take the ball in and the team as a whole are playing as a great unit......any player who has been coming in to cover an injury or a suspension has played superbly and basically given Agar a headache as to whether to drop them or not......competition for places is red hot at the moment and we are bearing the fruits.....

As for keeping Dobbo quiet, the plan will be simple.....just allow Tim Smith to work the magic he has been doing for the last month or two

Morgan's 'effective winning rugby' at this stage last season....22 league points and 9th in the league. We finished 7th but needed to win the final game to avoid being 9th - we won it by just 2 points at home to Cas. This season hasn't turned out how we hoped but it really hasn't been so much worse than last year if at all. It's ending up disappointingly of course but blaming it all on the new coach ...well if that's what you need to do.

Sandercock is absolutely passionate about his rugby you really couldn't be more wrong on that score. His commitment & dedication really is second to none. You've got to be patient and give him a chance with something more like his own team next season. He might surprise you, I think he will.

Morgan did a great job for Rovers this isn't about having a go at him. On reflection I think our recruitment for 2012 has been the biggest problem and most of the signings were made by neither Morgan nor Sandercock. Paea has been good, Mika looking the part before his injury, the others not consistent enough or good enough, we wouldn't have been much worse playing kids. McDonnell is a talented player but he seemed to lose his appetite after he didn't get his pay rise or maybe he got fed up with the abuse from more than a few idiots.

For me the worst signings have been Withers & O'Hara. They maybe haven't been quite the worst players but we signed them not because we really wanted or needed them but because they were available off quota. Whatever anyone says we wouldn't have signed them otherwise. I think he have learned that lesson, I hope so.

We've also had some 'big' players like Clinton & Webster looking like they are winding down and others like Galea & Green unavailable more often than not. It looks like they'll all be departing and given their contributions this season it'll probably be better for Sandercock to simply have them out of the way.

I could mention the fixture list loaded early with away games and players missing before a ball kicked I don't think that helped Sandercock either - but yes I am borrowing the Hull FC book of exuses there I suppose.

Still with so many senior players offering so very little and signings of limited value maybe you can see my point that the coach isn't the one you should be pointing the finger at.

Of course any coach is ultimately judged on results and Sandercock has another year left on his contract to improve matters. He's probably the most intelligent coach in Super League (do any of the others have a masters degree in economics?), he has an encyclopedic knowledge of Rugby League, connections with influential RL people in Sydney and has shown himself to be a workaholic in the cause of Hull KR. If the U16's are playing on a cold Wednesday night in Wakefield he's there encouraging them, taking notes letting them know he's interested. This time, next time, every time. Now that is [ireal[/i passion.Not knocking Justin but he'd have delegated that one.

I'll be honest personally I would extend Sandercock's contract right now, tie him up for 5 years. The high cost, dead wood is leaving the club, we have the best crop of youngsters for 2 generations and they and the others left who have a future with the club are getting 'one to one' coaching of a quality they haven't known before. Let Sandercock go and we'll have had the learning curve and someone else gets the dividend. Will his work pay off by Sunday and guarantee us a win? Idiots reply on a postage stamp.

You are right.

Wakefield will never lose again and Warrington are running scared.

Alternatively you are just like we were after our own 4 game winning streak.

Always makes me chuckle.

Excellent post and fully support your last para (above).

Seriously, You'd give a coach who's taken you backwards a 5 year extension?