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| Two very young aussie half backs it is then.
Where does this leave Kristian Bell??
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Two very young aussie half backs it is then.
Where does this leave Kristian Bell??'"
Who says Dobson is staying and if he does who's to say they'll both be ever present
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"According to the other board, you've paid Mills £140k for 4 games, yet you say we paid Crocker more than this? OK.
So, welcome Blake. Ready for a commanding role and in no way a bit-part player to Dobson.
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Mills was on 40.000 this season, although still to much imo, unfortunately he hasn't been one of our better acquisitions , i would certainly have prefered his old man in his hey day.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"According to the other board, you've paid Mills £140k for 4 games, yet you say we paid Crocker more than this? OK.
[uSo, welcome Blake. Ready for a commanding role and in no way a bit-part player to Dobson[/u.
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Point proven that someone needs to grow a set and kick you off here.
You bring nothing to a discussion at all.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Point proven that someone needs to grow a set and kick you off here.
You bring nothing to a discussion at all.'"
Au contraire. Your last 6 sought a release on the basis he was constrained from playing his natural game due to Morgan wanting the vast majority of play to run through Dobson. The relevance of whether this will be repeated under Rovers well structured system is entirely relevant and arguably the most relevant point made with reference to Green's signing on this thread.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Au contraire. Your last 6 sought a release on the basis he was constrained from playing his natural game due to Morgan wanting the vast majority of play to run through Dobson. The relevance of whether this will be repeated under Rovers well structured system is entirely relevant and arguably the most relevant point made with reference to Green's signing on this thread.'"
The previous 6 couldn't adapt his game enough to suit the way the team currently play, his ego wouldn't allow him to share the limelight. Look at our upturn in form with the shared attacking workload of Murrell, Dobson and Galea with Watts playing a semi sort of ball handling role from Loose Forward
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"The previous 6 couldn't adapt his game enough to suit the way the team currently play, his ego wouldn't allow him to share the limelight. Look at our upturn in form with the shared attacking workload of Murrell, Dobson and Galea with Watts playing a semi sort of ball handling role from Loose Forward
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The previous 6 never got a pass of the ball because of his birth place. What a joke your side will be next year if you do bring in 3 more quota players,
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"The previous 6 never got a pass of the ball because of his birth place. What a joke your side will be next year if you do bring in 3 more quota players,'"
Whereas the current Stand Off speaks with an aussie twang and gets loads of ball?
Our "joke" of a side will still be more than competitive enough to see us continue our presence in the top half of the table, and maybe beyond now we don't have to cope with a distruptive influence wearing No.6.
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| Where was Scott Murrell born by the way? I don't seem to recall him having any issues regarding not getting a pass of the ball.
Please name the three quota players to which you refer.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"The previous 6 never got a pass of the ball because of his birth place. What a joke your side will be next year if you do bring in 3 more quota players,'"
What is the nationality of the current 6? Give your head a bang
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"
Please name the three quota players to which you refer.'"
He won't be able to. Interesting to note that this little gem joined the board when the schools broke up for summer. Oh the joys of the next few weeks!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"The previous 6 couldn't adapt his game enough to suit the way the team currently play, his ego wouldn't allow him to share the limelight. Look at our upturn in form with the shared attacking workload of Murrell, Dobson and Galea with Watts playing a semi sort of ball handling role from Loose Forward
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I do like Watts.
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| I don't think Sam Moa does.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Where was Scott Murrell born by the way? I don't seem to recall him having any issues regarding not getting a pass of the ball.
Please name the three quota players to which you refer.'"
Maybe he means Bailey, Mason and Green in, whilst Wheeldon, Walker and Colbon leave? Of course not confirmed, but you could see if this were true that Rovers overseas % were to increase when the idea (I think) is to reduce it? Just a guess though.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"I don't think Sam Moa does.'"
He doesn't like Wigan either, I heard he was really looking forward to facing the pies and was left quite disappointed afterwards when 17 blokes got off the bus
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe he means Bailey, Mason and Green in, whilst Wheeldon, Walker and [uColbon leave? Of course not confirmed[/u, but you could see if this were true that Rovers overseas % were to increase when the idea (I think) is to reduce it? Just a guess though.'"
Correct its not confirmed, and not even remotely looking like its going too.
Maybe he should complain to the RFL; afterall its there rules and we are not breaking them - so why shouldnt we try to use them to our advantage?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"The previous 6 never got a pass of the ball because of his birth place. What a joke your side will be next year if you do bring in 3 more quota players,'"
I was just saying that to my mate the other day, If only cookie could have played for us like he is for wakey now. Ever since he left we haven't won a game or scored many points yet wakey have gone from strength to strength.
There fans only this week carried cooke around on there shoulders after his massive points haul as he masterminded the destruction of a talented hudds side...
Anyway back in the real world, he still hides from the ball in every game except when he's playing FC and the fans think he's a fat waste of space... oh well your point would have been valid if it wasn't 100% wrong.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe he means Bailey, Mason and Green in, whilst Wheeldon, Walker and Colbon leave? Of course not confirmed, but you could see if this were true that Rovers overseas % were to increase when the idea (I think) is to reduce it? Just a guess though.'" If you dont like it I suggest you give the RFL a call.
It was their idea not ours.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"If you dont like it I suggest you give the RFL a call.
It was their idea not ours.'"
I never said I disliked the idea, did I? What do you think of it? It could be argued that clubs choosing to push for the maximum overseas players might suffer in the medium term as they will have to work harder to bring in a greater proportion of British players as their overseas ones leave but this is the RFL and the only certainty is that the rules will change again next year.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I never said I disliked the idea, did I? What do you think of it? It could be argued that clubs choosing to push for the maximum overseas players might suffer in the medium term as they will have to work harder to bring in a greater proportion of British players as their overseas ones leave but this is the RFL and the only certainty is that the rules will change again next year.'" I think the idea stinks TBH but we are not breaking any rules and I can't see how it will make it harder as players leave clubs and retire all the time. You replace the player with the best available and just because the player leaving has an aussie accent makes the fact you need to replace him not diffrent from having to replace any player.
I do belive you have said that you didn't like the idea yourself in the past though
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| Quote ="Roverswall"I think the idea stinks TBH but we are not breaking any rules and I can't see how it will make it harder as players leave clubs and retire all the time. You replace the player with the best available and just because the player leaving has an aussie accent makes the fact you need to replace him not diffrent from having to replace any player.
I do belive you have said similar things yourself in the bast though
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I guess the point is that the better British players are tending to move less now as clubs build their long term plans around them and if Rovers next year gave say 10 overseas players at some point they'll have to replace them with senior British players in the next 2-3 years, which could be harder than for a team that has fewer than 10. The issue for me is that some clubs have geared up for 5 max next season and whittled down overseas player numbers accordingly. Others haven't and are therefore advantaged by this latest change . But that's the RFL all over - set out some guiding principles around franchising to reduce overseas players then change the rules to allow some teams to have, say, 10 in the final year of the first round.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I guess the point is that the better British players are tending to move less now as clubs build their long term plans around them and if Rovers next year gave say 10 overseas players at some point they'll have to replace them with senior British players in the next 2-3 years, which could be harder than for a team that has fewer than 10. The issue for me is that some clubs have geared up for 5 max next season and whittled down overseas player numbers accordingly. Others haven't and are therefore advantaged by this latest change . But that's the RFL all over - set out some guiding principles around franchising to reduce overseas players then change the rules to allow some teams to have, say, 10 in the final year of the first round.
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Players will always move between clubs even if they are not Aussies.
If we were so hard fast to keep all our aussie why was Fitzy let go when he had found good form at the back end of his last year?
Infact I could be wrong but didn't we bring in Colbon as his replacement?
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| Quote ="barham red"I was just saying that to my mate the other day, If only cookie could have played for us like he is for wakey now. Ever since he left we haven't won a game or scored many points yet wakey have gone from strength to strength.
There fans only this week carried cooke around on there shoulders after his massive points haul as he masterminded the destruction of a talented hudds side...
Anyway back in the real world, he still hides from the ball in every game except when he's playing FC and the fans think he's a fat waste of space... oh well your point would have been valid if it wasn't 100% wrong.'"
Although Cooke isn't the player he once was he was still a much better play maker than Dobson was when you brought him in, they weren't exactly much better when he didn't play on Sunday were they? Players detoriate (look at Vella).
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Briscoe, Fox to name 2 that we have got in the off season from other SL clubs.
Players will always move between clubs even if they are not Aussies.
If we were so hard fast to keep all our aussie why was Fitzy let go when he had found good form at the back end of his last year?
Infact I could be wrong but didn't we bring in Colbon as his replacement?'"
At some point though you'll have to get back to 5 and all I'm saying is it might be more difficult than from a starting point of 6. I'm not having a go. But some clubs are better placed to ramp up overseas numbers such that the majority of their first choice 17 is overseas. I don't really think that's in the spirit of what the RFL set out to do with franchising yet is an inevitable by--product of their shambolic rule-changing.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Although Cooke isn't the player he once was he was still a much better play maker than Dobson was when you brought him in, they weren't exactly much better when he didn't play on Sunday were they? Players detoriate (look at Vella).'"
Who up until his injury has been playing some of his best rugby in a red and white shirt.
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