I cannot see us getting in the top 8 now, unless we get some players back and FC, Cats take a bit of a dive. Our pack will not stand up to the bigger packs and it's unlikely we will win too many if we cannot get on top in the forwards. If we cannot make the 8, I hope FC do as the last thing we need is a derby in the middle 8's.

Never thought about that, you are absolutely correct. Lets hope Radford continues to fire them upwards to avoid that possibility!

I still think we have a chance of making the 8's, I don't think we've been playing badly, we're just that depleted in the front row that we are struggling to get up the pitch. With the right players coming back I say we could squeeze in there. But today is 10000000000000% must win for us. MUST WIN

This is a must win of all must win games last Friday was a must win game but this is a bigger must win game so in all we must win this game

I must point out, we did

An entertaining afternoon, and in the end a reasonably comfortable win. However, lets not kid ourselves, that performance would not have been good enough to beat Warrington, or most of the other top 8 sides. Widnes were very poor.

Another 2 lost to injury, I expect Mantellato will be out for a couple of weeks but Green could be longer. Another prop down, we really need Tilse & Burke back asap.

Yeah, but to be fair, we're not Warrington.

We don't have their money and let's not forget how much of a development season this is.

Good teams don't turn over almost thirty players, we had to because of the state we got in with Sandercock.

Despite being in about the same league position as last year, we're a far better team with way, way more potential for seasons to come.

And Kelly has great hair.

Top hair from Kelly with a Parliament/Funkadelic vibe.
We controlled the ruck much better today and our defence went forward rather than back. We were woeful during the second half on occasion.
Boudebza Kelly and Welham great today.
Welham deserves praise for turning his game around. Stopped jumping out the line and looks a centre again.
Baffled by the bigot over Dixon. Got away with mistakes he didn't against Cas.
Puletua to the back row now.
Chester should give up on the medical bulletins he is making everyone frustrated and clearly doesn't understand some of the injuries.

John Boudebza was man of the match today IMO he is really at home in Super League now.

But how good was Graeme Horne? First game back from injury and he is up to speed straight away. I must have under rated him all these years either that or he has come into the form of his life these past 2 years.

Very much agree squire, wasn't a player I was that excited about us signing but just does his job quietly and effectively every game.

He's never going to set the world on fire and I suspect he'd be the first to admit that, but his take, step and offload to Sio was top drawer centre play.

Very, very good to also see the team spirit and togetherness today, credit has to go to Chester for that.

Mate I wasn't suggesting we are, I only mentioned them in the context of them being next game up and we have to go up another gear to get the win.

Some good performances today, but it's got to get better to give us a half chance of the 8.

Strongest pack we've been able to put out for a while & it showed. Bit disorganised at times but more aggressive. Puletu & Greenwood looking useful now they've had some game time.

Stop trying to stop an argument!

Where's the fun I that?

But you're right.

My friend (singular) at the game today remarked that if we put that much ball down in our own half and gave so many non sensical penalties away on Friday, Wire will kill us and eat us. OK, he didn't say "Kill us and eat us", because he's one of those vegetarians or whatever they call themselves that have no idea about steak tartare and all other good food like just taking the fur off a cow and eating it.

What an awful post, terrible syntax.

It was directed at SirStan, not the character that I do not understand, that Waldo business, what's it about?

Younger viewers may wish to enlighten me.

The team looked nervous for the first few minutes until they scored.

Thereafter they showed urgency and enthusiasm, despite overplaying at times and making some daft errors.

As Stan said, Widnes were poor and Warrington will be a bigger attacking threat next up with Smith looking for a reaction from them after their loss to Huddersfield today.

Despite this, our confidence will be high after today. I expect us to turn our intensity and performance levels up a notch next Friday. We are in with a good chance of taking the 2 points off Wire, but we need Burke, Tilse and Dixon back. Here's hoping.

It showed Widnes miss Tickle,O Carroll, Galea,Flynn,Cahill and Phelps.

We did miss the organisation skills of campo but the team really stood up when they had to and I've never understood opposition fans saying Kelly can't tackle he tackles harder than most forwards

We were without Campese, Tilse, Lunt, Allgood, Burke & Dixon,
Walker and Horne's 1st game back for weeks and we lost Green and Mantellato during the game.

Vegetarians are not human beings

Veggies are ok but I prefer baked beans myself.

They're devils, with their tofu and bean burgers.

And widnes are absolute gash away from home

Fishing expedition of the most terrible and obvious kind.

Need a better lure squire, you'll catch nowt wi' that.

It's hardly fishing, they've managed wins against the mighty wakey and salford away from their plaggy pitch all season

The only gash around here is you, Rolfie